Beat Ballads

[Richard Bayley]

his true love for you "al mccarther

Great shout ..... wonderful (barely) mid-tempo soul

Should also add:- Shep - I'm Sitting In - quality passionate soul......

[Guest]

JESUS H CHRIST!!!! I had completely forgotten about this track, since i had it on a Kent comp album(i think).Many Many moons ago. Is it on a 45? Well i must thank you for that..I think i love you. Gonna hunt this fecker doon.

thanks thanks Mike

Me name is on the lp its called "smart" i think

Harold Burrage - master key - M-pac promo -

Shep - i`m sitting in - TNT -

Pageants - are you ever coming home - RCA promo -

Kenny Carter - dont go - RCA promo -

Spot the fugal horn Little Richard - hurry sundown - Okeh promo -

Edited August 11, 2009 by ken

[Guest andrew bin]

Should also add:- Shep - I'm Sitting In - quality passionate soul......

definitely quality

[Ady Pountain]

Some great tracks selected, sorry if I do any duplicates, but here we go:-

Tommy Hunt - I'll Make You Happy - Capitol

Freddy Butler - They Say I'm Afraid - Kapp LP

Tommy Tate - Are You From Heaven - Okeh (Flip of "I'm Taking On Pain)

Walter Jackson - My Ship Is Coming In - Okeh

Roy Hamilton - The Panic Is On - MGM

Cheers, Ady

[Guest]

Has anyone mentioned these ?

Robert Parker - Caught you in a lie

Ray Pollard - Its a sad thing

Mitch Ryder - One grain of sand

Little Herman - One out of a hundred

Pat Galo - Out of the crowd

Cletus Marland - Every now & then

Little Jimmy Dee - I went on

[Ady Pountain]

And these ones;-

J.B.Love - Then Only Then - Kapp

Theola Kilgore - I Just Can't Stand It - Mercury

Jeffrey Bowen - I'll Get By (All By Myself) - Mercury

Dee Dee Warwick - I Haven't Got Anything Better To Do - Mercury

Roz Ryan - You're My Only Temptation - Volt

Jimmy Dotson - I Used To Be A Loser - Volt

I'll get my anniversary planner, Ady

[Mark Bicknell]

Willie Wade - ''When Push Comes To Shove' and the flip 'Come Into My World' - Nite Life one of the daddies in this style.

The Inverts - 'Time Will Change' - Broadway, sublime record.

Lovelace Watkins - 'Dreams' - Sue

Ray Pollard - 'The Drifter' - United Artists, one of the classic down tempo tunes, awesome.

Jimmy Gilford - 'Heartbreaker' - Solid Hitbound, a dream of a record possibly my favorite in the down tempo style.

Harry Starr - 'Step Into My World' - End, awesome flip of 'Another Time, Another Place'.

The Exsaveyons - ''Somewhere' flip to 'I Don't Love You No More' - Smoke.

Jimmy Helms - 'You're Mine, You' - Symbol.

The Intentions - 'Don't Forget That I Love You' - Philips - Stunning simply stunning.

The Intrigues - 'Don't Refuse My Love' - Port.

Johnny Newbag - 'Sweet Thing' - Port.

Jimmy Ricks - 'Oh What A Feeling' - Festival

Otis Clay - 'Tired Of Falling In (And Out Of) Love' - Onederful, never a better twenty quid will you spend, try finding a demo though took me years.

Flip to The Heartbreakers - 'I've Got To Face It' on Derby City 'How Do You Say Goodbye', talk about emotion, gut wrenching oh my god takes me to another place this one.

Flip to Johnny Moore 'Walk Like A Man on Date 'It's Just My Way Of Loving You' wow simply wow!

A few more upstairs but Mrs B. is still asleep lol will remind myself later of a few more, love this style, give me an armchair anyday.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Edited August 18, 2009 by Mark Bicknell

[Guest SteveJohnston]

The two that do it most for me:-

June Jackson "you're welcome"

Bob & Fred "i'll be on my way"

Kell Osborne How can anyone not like this

would you class Arin Demain "silent treatment" or Paris "sleepless nights" as a beat ballads?

steve J

[Guest NASHEE]

FRANSISCANS-WALK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA

https://www.youtube.c...h?v=YiGaVfwOyZg JIMMY HELMS-YOURE MINE YOU

GARETT SAUNDERS0ADAY OR TWO

JOHNNY MAESTRO-PHONEBOOTH ON THE HIGHWAY

LU ELLOIOT-I LOVE THE GROUND YOU WALK ON

TERRY SINCLAIR-WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD

WYNN CAMERON-WHERE CAN I GO

try these

Linda

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[Davenpete]

Lenny Welch - Darling Take Me Back (better than Ray Pollard).

Though that said being a beat 'Ballad' they ought really to have a story rather than just be a slow(ish) paced record - so how about 'Can't Stop Looking For My Baby' by The Fantastic Four as a left field option. Or as I've just noticed Theola Kilgore - how about 'This Is My Prayer' - just slays me.

More pointless nomenclature really - how about a Crossover 60s Newie Beat Ballad.

Dave

PS Kell Osbourne? Quicksand? Sorry I absolutely detest it - it's like luke warm porridge.

Edited August 18, 2009 by DaveNPete

[Guest posstot]

Oh go on then, here's a few more for consideration ;

Jennell Hawkins Johnny comes home Amazon

Ronnie Gallant Shadows Atlantic

Linda Carr A heart without love Dcp

Joe Moore I know you like a book CB

Barbara McNair It was never like this Warner Brothers

Kenny Gamble You don't know what you've got until you lose it Columbia

Sherrell Townsend He thinks i still care Gone / Delta, Canadian. which i have.( which is nice)

Marcels Give me back your love Colpix

Roy Hamilton You can count on me M.G.M

Baby Washington There he is Sue

Ketty Lester River of Salt Era

Wanderers Somebody elses sweetheart Cub

Freddie Butler I told you so Star Maker

Johnny Appalachian Up in smoke Goldie

Conchords Don't go now Herald

June Adams The human race Roulette

Freddie Scott I'll try again Columbia

Freddie Cole I'd have it made Tru-Glo-Town

Johmmy Thunder Outlaw Diamond

Don Gardner and Dee Dee Ford Son my Son Ludix

Johnny Nash Moment of weakness Warner Brothers

Nat Wright Don't pass me by Captain

J.J. Jackson It seems like i've been here before Calla.

Sarah Vaughan You Got it made Mercury

Soz for no soundclips, I'm fluffin' useless.

Mike

[Chalky]

The two that do it most for me:-

June Jackson "you're welcome"

Bob & Fred "i'll be on my way"

Kell Osborne How can anyone not like this

would you class Arin Demain "silent treatment" or Paris "sleepless nights" as a beat ballads?

steve J

no they are mid tempo, same as June Jackson, too quick for a ballad IMO.

Would you call a ballad mid tempo? I wouldn't. Beat Ballad to me is exactly what it says, a ballad with a beat bu slower tha mid tempo. Many of those listed are not what I would call a beat ballad, simply mid tempo.

[Philt]

Absolutely love em, always have; however, there does seem to be a stigma attached in some quarters i.e. amongst those who associate tempo singularly with quality and of course the debates continue to, erm, 'rage' about what 'northern' is, what should be played, what's for chin strokers only etc etc etc ...

Personal faves include:

Ty Karim - all at once (Romark)

Everything else is second division after this IMHO but its a competetive league nonetheless ...

Don & Juan - the heartbreaking truth (Mala)

Linda & Vistas - he went away (Shrine)

Betty Turner - tell yourself a lie (Crescent)

Cheers

Phil

[Hermanthegerman]

A great but often overlooked one (because it´s a cheapie?): Ben E King

[Ezzie Brown]

A tune that slow and boring ,it puts you to sleep

Bazza

i rescind my bday wishes now after that ......u ever seen me asleep??????????...........just love um . rg al collier on swa ray .......awesome ez

[Wrongcrowd]

I am incredibly proud (yes proud, you tempo terrorists out there)to say I have played about 3/4 of these records on list so far in spots over year, mostly last hour at Allanton, when we had as many people as interested in the music as the beat!

Think there is a media thread out there somewhere specialising in these somewhere, worth reviving some time.

Only problem for me is where people mistake any big voice with a good soul singer and the genre becomes a bit blurry for me, but appreciate particularly with the Big City stuff the line is definitely blurred.

Tony Colton is one to add that I like to think I had some part in it making, after Dean Anderson obviously, but that is one that not sure has stood the test of time.

With you on that Jock, plenty of the tunes listed are worth plays, and there's a few that I regularly drop into sets. Don't hear too many down beat tunes played out nowadays which is a great shame 'cos plenty are far more soulful than some of the uptempo plays. It seems that Northern has become a term for uptempo 60's, and ok whilst the majority of Northern tunes are, Northern has always been far more of a broader church.

I'm also with Chalky, I'd describe quite a few of the tunes listed on the thread as mid-tempo........though to a lot of people Northern mid-tempo is now crossover .

As far as beat ballads go, here's some that do it for me......

Charades - Never Set Me Free - MGM

Vonda Marie - I Feel Complete - Phil LA of Soul

Tommy Collins - I Want To Thank You - Verve

Reginald Day - Lost Love - Midas

It Use To Be - Jimmy Burns & Fantastic Epics - Tip Top

[Blake H]

Jerry Jackson, Wide Awake In A Dream, Kapp Canadian Issue. -

THE version

BH

[Wrongcrowd]

Jerry Jackson, Wide Awake In A Dream, Kapp Canadian Issue. -

THE version

BH

Nice version Blake, though I prefer Vickie Anderson's version

[Guest gordon russell]

theres a diffefence between great mid tempo soul and beat ballards......big joe turner is a beat ballard so is emperor of my baby's heart.....they seem to me to be tunes sung by black artists that wanna sound like dean martin..............absolute crap!!!!......don't confuse em with mid tempo soul now theres good people T

[Chalky]

theres a diffefence between great mid tempo soul and beat ballards......big joe turner is a beat ballard so is emperor of my baby's heart.....they seem to me to be tunes sung by black artists that wanna sound like dean martin..............absolute crap!!!!......don't confuse em with mid tempo soul now theres good people T

Kurt Harris for me is mid tempo

[Guest gordon russell]

Kurt Harris for me is mid tempo

theres the point IT IS MID TEMPO...........just don't think it's a mid tempo soul record...........just a black fella trying to sound like DEAN MARTIN

[Wrongcrowd]

theres a diffefence between great mid tempo soul and beat ballards......big joe turner is a beat ballard so is emperor of my baby's heart.....they seem to me to be tunes sung by black artists that wanna sound like dean martin..............absolute crap!!!!......don't confuse em with mid tempo soul now theres good people T

I kind of know what you're saying abount black wannabe Dean Martin tunes, and there's been more than few of those played when people should have known better. It's a bit too simple a definition to say that beat ballads are all in that bag; how would you define a tune like Johnny Burton - Slave Girl, too slow to describe as mid-tempo, but it's a million miles away from a Dean Martin sound alike.

[Guest]

they seem to me to be tunes sung by black artists that wanna sound like dean martin..............

I can't be the only one around here who thinks that sounds like a splendid thing