I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'.

I'm talking:

Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry

Maxine Brown - Not My Baby

Gene Chandler - Just Be True

Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real

Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella

Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart

Marva Josie - Don't

Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool

Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me?

Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd

Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up

The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call?

That kinda stuff.

Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat?

Cheers y'all.

  On 04/08/2009 at 16:32, MattDykes said:

I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'.

I'm talking:

Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry

Maxine Brown - Not My Baby

Gene Chandler - Just Be True

Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real

Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella

Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart

Marva Josie - Don't

Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool

Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me?

Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd

Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up

The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call?

That kinda stuff.

Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat?

Cheers y'all.

Love that LENNY WELCH record, especially the awesome femme backing vocals! See GENE CHANDLER on the list do you know 'You cant hurt me no more', top drawer Chicago, fantastic production.

Edited August 4, 200915 yr by chorleysoul

whats a "beat ballad" ?

  On 04/08/2009 at 16:58, sarahleen said:

whats a "beat ballad" ?

A tune that slow and boring ,it puts you to sleep

Bazza

  On 04/08/2009 at 17:07, Bazza said:

A tune that slow and boring ,it puts you to sleep

Bazza

  On 04/08/2009 at 16:32, MattDykes said:

I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'.

I'm talking:

Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry

Maxine Brown - Not My Baby

Gene Chandler - Just Be True

Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real

Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella

Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart

Marva Josie - Don't

Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool

Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me?

Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd

Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up

The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call?

That kinda stuff.

Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat?

Cheers y'all.

  On 04/08/2009 at 16:32, MattDykes said:

I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'.

I'm talking:

Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry

Maxine Brown - Not My Baby

Gene Chandler - Just Be True

Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real

Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella

Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart

Marva Josie - Don't

Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool

Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me?

Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd

Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up

The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call?

That kinda stuff.

Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat?

Cheers y'all.

My suggestions are ;-

Deena Johnson -- Breaking Point

Judy Clay - My arms aren't strong enough ( plus an equally good B-side which is the original (?)of Johnny Taylor's unissued track - That's All)

B-side of Marie Knight - You lie so well ..... forgotten title!

Definately NOT slow and boring as others think!! Absolutely phenomenal ender type beat ballads....

I never really like the term beat ballads (prefer mid-tempo) but i suppose these are my favourites... if they are beat ballads.

The Magnificent Seven - Never Will I Make My Baby Cry

Barbara Lynn - This Is The Thanks I Get

The Commands - Hey It's Love

But the king of all is Buddy Smith - When You Lose The One You Love (magical)

I might be wrong but it's a sub-genre associated with Stafford mid tempo stuff.

Edited August 4, 200915 yr by Matt Male

Oh dear, now you've gone and done it!!

I'll be back in a bit!!

Freddy Jaye Thinkin' of you

George Smith or Robin Rice I've Had it

Ernestine Anderson You're not the guy for me

Tony Middleton Paris Blues

and on and on and on and on.....................

jerry butler - you walked into my life

hoagy lands - satisfy my needs

jimmy beaumont - i never loved her anyway

glaze - promises

charles beverly - stop and think a minute

just a few of the top of my head - none sound boring to me

Great stuff, thanks for the tips. Gonna get digging.

Definitely a sound that went down well in the mid 80s at Stafford and 100 Club. But yer can't please all the peeps all the time.

Anyway, cheer folks. And keep 'em coming ...

  On 04/08/2009 at 16:32, MattDykes said:

I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'.

I'm talking:

Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry

Maxine Brown - Not My Baby

Gene Chandler - Just Be True

Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real

Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella

Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart

Marva Josie - Don't

Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool

Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me?

Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd

Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up

The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call?

That kinda stuff.

Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat?

Cheers y'all.

Nearly forgot.... Jerry Butler - I don't want to hear it anymore (Veejay) .......Gut wrenchingly good. Up there in Big Maybelle - Oh Lord country!

Just a few from me

Freddie Scott - Mr Heartache

Freddie Parris - Are you ever coming home

King Pins - Lucky Guy

Roy Hamilton - Reach out for me

Roy Hamilton - Heartache hurry on by

Steve

Hey Matt here's ten fairly easy ones for you to have a go at that you might or might not have/know etc.....

Freddie Gorman - The Day Will Come

Esther Phillips - While It Lasted

Arthur Alexander - Show Me the Road

Jean Dushon - As I Watch You Walk Away

Lonnie Youngblood - The Grass Will Sing For You

Brook Benton - Where Does A Man Go To Cry

Gladys Knight - Letter Full Of Tears

Dee Dee Sharpe - Night

Jimmy Beaumont - You Got Too Much Going For You

Yvonne Baker - Mend The Torn Pieces

Make it 11 then....

Jimmy Richards - I Won't be Responsible

All marvellous soul. Well, to me anyway.....

Steve

  On 04/08/2009 at 16:58, sarahleen said:

whats a "beat ballad" ?

A Ballad, that has a beat!!

You did ask.....

Mal

I think Longy will Vouch for me when i say i like a beat ballad or twelve.,

here's a few more suggestions;

Jay milller Can't you tell him no

Gladys knight and the pips tell him your mine

Jimmy Miller On a backstreet

Arthur Prysock Come and see this old fool

You found my lonely heart a home

Little Anthony and the Imperials It's not the same

Doug Banks Ain't that just like a woman

" " " " " Baby, since you went away

Barbara george Recipe

Lonnie Satin Who's Gonna memtion my name..............orph, orph Suit you sir hhhhhhoh!

  On 04/08/2009 at 16:58, sarahleen said:

whats a "beat ballad" ?

Is it .............A pie?

George Freeman - Down and out

George Smith - I've had it

These 2 are the best I've ever heard of this genre....

  On 04/08/2009 at 17:12, sarahleen said:

Just leav this to the folk who love the deep side..

Quality topic, this is gonna run run run..

Will post some after work today...

Edited August 5, 200915 yr by little-stevie

  On 04/08/2009 at 22:46, steve woomble said:

Freddie Gorman - The Day Will Come

Excellent shout!

  On 04/08/2009 at 20:36, Longy said:

Freddie Scott - Mr Heartache

Freddie Scott - Hey Girl

Brook Benton - Where does a man go to cry

Romance Watson - Where does that leave me

Walter Jackson-Uphill Climb to the Bottom

Tommy Tate-Taking on Pain

Jackie Wilson-Those Heartaches

for starters.

Tony

ten from me, in no particular order

i'm only a man - willie tee (his best i.m.o)

you satisfy my needs - big dee irwin

soft and gentle ways - clydie king

walk with love - dobie gray (b - side of see you at the go-go)

come see what's left of me - bobby hutton

don't forget that i love you - the intentions

making my daydream real - we the people

tomorrow is another day - gene stridel

ooh wee baby i love you - fred hughes

just be sincere - jackie wilson

gene stridel - tomorrow is another day

look here girl - jim nabie

charlotte ohara - what about you

jack montgomery - dont turn your back on me

  On 04/08/2009 at 18:03, Matt Male said:

I never really like the term beat ballads (prefer mid-tempo) but i suppose these are my favourites... if they are beat ballads.

The Magnificent Seven - Never Will I Make My Baby Cry

Barbara Lynn - This Is The Thanks I Get

The Commands - Hey It's Love

But the king of all is Buddy Smith - When You Lose The One You Love (magical)

I might be wrong but it's a sub-genre associated with Stafford mid tempo stuff.

Three great choices there Matt.

The Buddy Smith record should have been melted down on release though.

One thats been filling dancefloors (well,my living room - just me!!)...

HOWARD TATE - HALF A MAN - VERVE....cheap as you like...........

The "Soul or Nothing" room at the Radcliffe nighter last Saturday ended at 7am with the following couple of beauties (c/o Wayne) :-

Joe Hinton - Don't Tell Her the Truth

Zerben Hicks & Dynamics - Lights Out

Counselling was available on site for those who suddenly felt the need to end it all there and then.........

I am incredibly proud (yes proud, you tempo terrorists out there)to say I have played about 3/4 of these records on list so far in spots over year, mostly last hour at Allanton, when we had as many people as interested in the music as the beat!

Think there is a media thread out there somewhere specialising in these somewhere, worth reviving some time.

Only problem for me is where people mistake any big voice with a good soul singer and the genre becomes a bit blurry for me, but appreciate particularly with the Big City stuff the line is definitely blurred.

Tony Colton is one to add that I like to think I had some part in it making, after Dean Anderson obviously, but that is one that not sure has stood the test of time.

  On 04/08/2009 at 22:46, steve woomble said:

Hey Matt here's ten fairly easy ones for you to have a go at that you might or might not have/know etc.....

Freddie Gorman - The Day Will Come

Esther Phillips - While It Lasted

Arthur Alexander - Show Me the Road

Jean Dushon - As I Watch You Walk Away

Lonnie Youngblood - The Grass Will Sing For You

Brook Benton - Where Does A Man Go To Cry

Gladys Knight - Letter Full Of Tears

Dee Dee Sharpe - Night

Jimmy Beaumont - You Got Too Much Going For You

Yvonne Baker - Mend The Torn Pieces

Make it 11 then....

Jimmy Richards - I Won't be Responsible

All marvellous soul. Well, to me anyway.....

Steve

Steve(see we,ve finally signed someone--apparently 5 in 3 days possibly)--just played-Jimmy Richards--"Responsible" abou 2 hours ago!! as regards -"Grass will sing to you"--grat song ,everyones recorded it --but the best version by a country mile is by the writer-Tony Bruno on U.A. (ABOUT £125) a killer ask Steve Edgar--it went down a storm at Morecambe Weekender!! Are you 2 at Lytham on Sat--we r then Deano,s game on Sunday.

Best

T.C.

  On 04/08/2009 at 16:32, MattDykes said:

I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'.

I'm talking:

Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry

Maxine Brown - Not My Baby

Gene Chandler - Just Be True

Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real

Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella

Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart

Marva Josie - Don't

Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool

Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me?

Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd

Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up

The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call?

That kinda stuff.

Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat?

Cheers y'all.

And one of the CLASSIC Beat Ballad/Enders of all time (IMHO) Ray Pollard,The Drifter on United Artists.

Regards.

  On 04/08/2009 at 22:52, Mal.C. said:

A Ballad, that has a beat!!

You did ask.....

Mal

but surely dont all ballads have a beat ? ?

One step at a time Maxine Brown

Loving this thread. Some of the suggestions, I have. Others, I'm now on the hunt.

And while we're at it, how about:

Sam E Solo - Tears Keep Falling

Buddy Ace - Inside Story

The Jive Five - Don't Take My Candy Away

Freddy Butler - That's When I Need You

Tommy Hunt - Lover

Darryl Fletcher - Little Girl

Marie Kinght - A Little Too Lonely

Maxine Brown - Gotta Find A Way

Judy Clay - Haven't Got What It Takes

Marvin Smith - Hold On

  On 05/08/2009 at 10:18, dogstoat said:

Here are my suggestions.........

All fabulous in my opinion...............

Best

dogstoat

Sterling, abeat ballad? A great track, but a beat Ballad . Or is it?

I'll be posting a lot more up taters!!

OOh i nearly got a twinge then

  On 04/08/2009 at 16:32, MattDykes said:

I'm a big fan of the slow to mid tempo soul shuffler or 'beat ballad'.

I'm talking:

Lenny Welch - The Right to Cry

Maxine Brown - Not My Baby

Gene Chandler - Just Be True

Porgy and the Monarchs - If its for Real

Garland Green - Jealous Kinda Fella

Bobbie Smith - Walk on into my Heart

Marva Josie - Don't

Barbara Brown - Pity a Fool

Big Maybelle - Lord, What are you Doing to Me?

Dan Folger - Way of the Crowd

Eddie Holman - I'm Not Gonna Give Up

The Mad Lads - Did My Baby Call?

That kinda stuff.

Any suggestions for other tunes that I should be checking out that my float my boat?

Cheers y'all.

Eddie Parker - Cryin' Clown

Walter Jackson - Not You

Ray Pollard - My Girl and I

Tippie and The Wisemen - Wait 'Til I Get There

Edited August 5, 200915 yr by soulsider

Sam Fletcher "I'd think it over twice" flip it for "Friday Night" two for the price of one.

ATB Steve

Bill Lucas - Cause I Know Your Mine Dionn

Clydie King - Only The Guilty Cry Phillips

Brooks O'Dell - You Better Make Up Your Mind Bell

Brilliant

Well folks.....Here's some more Beat Ballads for your consideration;

Milt Grayson Your old standby Derby

Jimmy Ricks Homesick (flip to daddy rollin'stone) Atco

Jimmy Stokes Keep on going Siana

Artistics I need your love Okeh

Bobby Williams Tell it to my face Lu-pine

Sidney Barnes Wait Gemini

Jackie Wilson Haunted house Brunswick

Bobby Hebb I love Mary Scepter

Jimmy Ruffin As long as there is l-o-v-e love Soul

Marcels My love for you Colpix

Shirrelles Doomsday Scepter

Johnny Dunn Darlin' Double l

Carla Thomas I can't take it Atlantic

B.B. King Help the poor Abc-paramount

Drifters In the Land of make believe Atlantic

Joe Bragg It's a lovely thing Arliss

Invitations Written on the wall Dynovoice

Angelic Choir Wade in the water Savoy

Marv Johnson The man who don't believe in love United Artists

Kenny Dana It's been so long Shell

Bobby Adams Sixteen years in the making Battle

Jerry Jackson You might be there with him Kapp

Kell Osborne Quicksand Titanic

Billy Barnes Until Liberty...........

...........Anyone for thirds??

  On 10/08/2009 at 18:49, posstot said:

Bobby Williams Tell it to my face Lu-pine

Simply superb, haven't heard it played anywhere for 25 years + Still out of my price range as well despite being neglected by everyone.

Some nice tunes listed....except for Kell Osborne "Quicksand"; never understood what that's about. Feel much the same about it as Pete Smith does about Buddy Smith (which I think is superb). Ways, hows about:

Jerry Ganey "Just A Fool" (Verve)

Liz Lands "Don't Shut Me Out" (Onederful)

Ruby & The Romantics "Does He Really Care For Me"

  On 11/08/2009 at 10:51, Matt Male said:

Simply superb, haven't heard it played anywhere for 25 years + Still out of my price range as well despite being neglected by everyone.

Out of your price range?.........Didn't think it was that much to buy...Hard to find, sort of, but didn't think it was a LOT of money. But as you have said, a truly neglected tune.

Mike

Some nice tunes listed....except for Kell Osborne "Quicksand"; never understood what that's about.

You don't like it? What about the other side, Lonely boys song? I think this is one of thee best double siders tint thistree!

OH, I whole heartedly Agree on the "other one" mentioned. I can't bring myself to utter its name. UURRGGHH!

  On 11/08/2009 at 17:05, posstot said:

Out of your price range?.........Didn't think it was that much to buy...Hard to find, sort of, but didn't think it was a LOT of money. But as you have said, a truly neglected tune.

Mike

Hey you're right, i thought it was about £400 for some reason, but just saw one went for $50 (although VG+) a while back.

  On 04/08/2009 at 16:58, sarahleen said:

whats a "beat ballad" ?

.

a ballad but with a beat and slower than mid-tempo IMO. Many of those listed are what I'd class mid-tempo.

George Freeman - Down and Out and Bobby Bennett - Alone With My Tears two of the best IMO.

  On 11/08/2009 at 10:51, Matt Male said:

Simply superb, haven't heard it played anywhere for 25 years + Still out of my price range as well despite being neglected by everyone.

You can look at mine if you like . I'm so mean

  On 11/08/2009 at 17:21, chalky said:

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a ballad but with a beat and slower than mid-tempo IMO. Many of those listed are what I'd class mid-tempo.

George Freeman - Down and Out and Bobby Bennett - Alone With My Tears two of the best IMO.

Yes i would say that is right...A lot of peeps seem to think Big production mid-tempo is a beat ballad. Like you have said, just below mid-tempo is as i have always thought to be a beat"ballad" (there's a clue there, tooohhoooo)

Jimmy Witherspoon "big man cry" and anything with kettle drums and a fugal horn is ok by me.

Jackie Wilson - haunted house - Brunswick -

annabel fox - Lonely Girl -

Edited August 11, 200915 yr by ken

  On 11/08/2009 at 17:49, ken said:

Jimmy Witherspoon "big man cry" and anything with kettle drums and a fugal horn is ok by me.

OOh, don't know that, any soundfiles anyone. I like JW.

I thought a Fugal horn was a Sunday night condition.

Edited August 11, 200915 yr by posstot

  On 11/08/2009 at 18:00, posstot said:

OOh, don't know that, any soundfiles anyone. I like JW.

I thought a Fugal horn was a Sunday night condition.

Sorry gave me lp away as a present, ta Ken.

Found one i got the title wrong.

jimmy witherspoon - man dont cry -

Richaed"popcorn"Wylie - greater than anything - Epic promo -

Edited August 11, 200915 yr by ken

gotta keep on walking "little herman"

get a hold of your self "byrdie green"

love "gladys"

closed for the season "bettye swan"

his true love for you "al mccarther"

whats the best mid tempo night in the country

  On 11/08/2009 at 18:10, ken said:

Sorry gave me lp away as a present, ta Ken.

Found one i got the title wrong.

jimmy witherspoon - man dont cry -

Richaed"popcorn"Wylie - greater than anything - Epic promo -

JESUS H CHRIST!!!! I had completely forgotten about this track, since i had it on a Kent comp album(i think).Many Many moons ago. Is it on a 45? Well i must thank you for that..I think i love you. Gonna hunt this fecker doon.

thanks thanks Mike

  On 11/08/2009 at 18:22, andrew bin said:

his true love for you "al mccarther

Great shout ..... wonderful (barely) mid-tempo soul

Should also add:- Shep - I'm Sitting In - quality passionate soul......