Simon T Posted August 2, 2009 Posted August 2, 2009 (edited) whats your shout on it ? Edited August 8, 2009 by hippopotamus
Simon T Posted August 2, 2009 Posted August 2, 2009 (edited) whats your shout on it ? Edited August 8, 2009 by hippopotamus
Sean Hampsey Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 The record was covered up by Richard Searling as Bobby Jason "Heartaches Souvenirs" Sean
Pauldonnelly Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Actually Bobby Jason - all these things. and yes its worth every penny in fact I was winning with 4 hrs to go.... One of the all time great northern soul rarities. whoever won I tip me hat in your direction, and whoever found it in the USA, well done.
Guest Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Actually Bobby Jason - all these things. and yes its worth every penny in fact I was winning with 4 hrs to go.... One of the all time great northern soul rarities. whoever won I tip me hat in your direction, and whoever found it in the USA, well done. hi paul, unlucky are there any more known copies?
Steve G Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 To me it's too monotonous by half - dead boring. Realise I'll be in trouble with some of my fellow collectors, but there you wanted a view now you have one.
Martint Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 I reckon it's absolutely brilliant and it's another good reason to get down to Solid Hit Soul If money was no object this would defo be in my wants list. Martin
bri pinch Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 To me it's too monotonous by half - dead boring. Realise I'll be in trouble with some of my fellow collectors, but there you wanted a view now you have one. AGREE STEVE, MONOTONOUS PILE OF SHITE, YOUVE HEARD THE WHOLE RECORD IN THE FIRST TEN SECONDS. IT'S NO WONDER IT'S SO BLOODY RARE COS IT'S CACK (IMHO) BETTER TEN QUIDDERS. BRI PINCH. SUNDAY CHILLOUT,16TH AUGUST, HORSE AND GROOM PUB, EAST LAITH GATE, DONCASTER. FRIENDSHIP @ KINGSTONE CLUB, SAY 29TH AUGUST. HULL SOUL CLUB, FRI 4TH SEPT.
Guest Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 To me it's too monotonous by half - dead boring. Realise I'll be in trouble with some of my fellow collectors, but there you wanted a view now you have one. i thought that steve but i suppose it could grow on you as it has on me like they usally do bet its on a few carvers
Pauldonnelly Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) To me it's too monotonous by half - dead boring. Realise I'll be in trouble with some of my fellow collectors, but there you wanted a view now you have one. thats me all over, tediously repetitious and lacking in variety... Edited August 3, 2009 by PaulDonnelly
Guest Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 thats me all over, tediously repetitious and lacking in variety... love the advert paul... wont be long now for torch re union look forward to meeting you atb
bri pinch Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 thats me all over, tediously repetitious and lacking in variety... HORSES FOR COURSES THO PAUL, INNIT. JUST ONE OF THOSE I'VE NEVER REALLY GOT ON WITH IN THE 20 ODD YEARS IVE KNOWN IT. BRI PINCH.
Chalky Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 To me it's too monotonous by half - dead boring. Realise I'll be in trouble with some of my fellow collectors, but there you wanted a view now you have one. I'm with you on this one Steve, never really liked it. If some reckon George Lemmons can't sing, this bloke ain't far behind.
Pauldonnelly Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 HORSES FOR COURSES THO PAUL, INNIT. JUST ONE OF THOSE I'VE NEVER REALLY GOT ON WITH IN THE 20 ODD YEARS IVE KNOWN IT. BRI PINCH. But in the same week I didn't win an all time want I obtainded The wonderful "Things are not the same" - LUV CO - SPRING £15 the sublime "Only One of a Kind" - We The People - MAP CITY £10 And a fantastic album by Bobby Womack with the unbelievable "can'cha hear the children calling on MCA for 25p so I know where you're coming from
Raresoul45s Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Well I think I'll speak up for the record, i love it and always have I dont know how many are knocking about but it aint many. I seriously rate it and so do many others, but each to there own i suppose. I suppose the argument thats theres a lot better £10 records out there is a fair point but you could say that about any record. I admit I did have a bid on it but lost out at the end. Always a good debate on the merits of certain records its good we dont all want the same ones.(although we often do) Cheers Darren. www.raresoul45s.co.uk
Pete S Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Well I think I'll speak up for the record, i love it and always have I dont know how many are knocking about but it aint many. I seriously rate it and so do many others, but each to there own i suppose. I suppose the argument thats theres a lot better £10 records out there is a fair point but you could say that about any record. I admit I did have a bid on it but lost out at the end. Always a good debate on the merits of certain records its good we dont all want the same ones.(although we often do) Cheers Darren. www.raresoul45s.co.uk As a record, not great, as a Northern Soul dancer, it's up there with the best of them and is nigh on the epitome of Northern Soul...
Jumpinjoan Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 AGREE STEVE, MONOTONOUS PILE OF SHITE, YOUVE HEARD THE WHOLE RECORD IN THE FIRST TEN SECONDS. IT'S NO WONDER IT'S SO BLOODY RARE COS IT'S CACK (IMHO) BETTER TEN QUIDDERS. Whey hey... for once I'm not alone when I say something is pants
Guest Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Well I think I'll speak up for the record, i love it and always have I dont know how many are knocking about but it aint many. I seriously rate it and so do many others, but each to there own i suppose. I suppose the argument thats theres a lot better £10 records out there is a fair point but you could say that about any record. I admit I did have a bid on it but lost out at the end. Always a good debate on the merits of certain records its good we dont all want the same ones.(although we often do) Cheers Darren. www.raresoul45s.co.uk good fair comment darren but does anyone know if theres anymore about?
Chalky Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 good fair comment darren but does anyone know if theres anymore about? Think Carl Fortnum has one if I remember rightly...two or three others as well.
Baz Atkinson Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Very much a casino record for Richard Searling it used to echo round and sounded fantastic to my 16 year old lugs lol.Now well its really hard locating where the soul is in this record and for 4k which is what it wll bring you can get fully kitted out with a wardrope of proper soul records lol. BAZ A
Jumpinjoan Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Think Carl Fortnum has one if I remember rightly...two or three others as well. Funny how records that are supposedly this rare have been played by so many over the years
Pete S Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Very much a casino record for Richard Searling it used to echo round and sounded fantastic to my 16 year old lugs lol.Now well its really hard locating where the soul is in this record and for 4k which is what it wll bring you can get fully kitted out with a wardrope of proper soul records lol. BAZ A Keep your proper soul records, I'll have a bit of this one.
Epic Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 All I can say about this tune is I quite like the sax break
Gene-r Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) I'd say that the £3K+ price tag is more than justified - one of my all-time faves for the past 26 years, and probably still less than 10 copies known in the hands of collectors. I first heard this played covered up by Keb Darge around Feb 1983. The first time I heard it played uncovered was when Keith Minshull played it during the summer of that year. I recall him telling me he'd paid £150 for it! Edited August 3, 2009 by Gene-R
Ted Massey Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 i had the chance to buy it for £120 in 1989 but turned it down cause i didnt like it that much now i really regret it ,Des Parker recently got one from the states
Stubbsy Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 I reckon it's absolutely brilliant and it's another good reason to get down to Solid Hit Soul If money was no object this would defo be in my wants list. Martin +1 Top notch northern imho
Guest James Trouble Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) played covered up by Keb Darge around Feb 1983. The first time I heard it played uncovered was when Keith Minshull played it during the summer of that year. I recall him telling me he'd paid £150 for it! Sorry for sounding like a tart, but this sort of comment really gets on my tits. £150 invested in a ZERO risk 25 year bond would give you about £650 with a 6% interest rate. Hey, £150 would be worth something like £400 today, at a rough guess, if it increased in line with inflation!!!!!!! But if you had put you £150 into the FTSE 100, which by coincidence was formed a year after your mates "bargain" in 1983, it would now be worth something like £3000 (now there's a coincidence), even accounting for the recent falls in the stock market. Please, stop this back in the day nonsense. £150 in 1983 was not cheap (or expensive). Get over it, people. £150 invested in a rare soul record in 1983 is not the same as £150 cash today BTW Good record IMO Edited August 3, 2009 by James Trouble
Mick Holdsworth Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 This eBay copy came from a collection owned by Lela Martin - I was looking through the rest of the records, which included 3 or 4 audiodisc acetates of Lela , some released, some not ..... Couldn't beleive my ears when I heard William Powell singing along with a basic piano backing, a song that was undoudtedly the genesis of Heartache Souvenirs - similar title too. Anybody else notice it? Cheers Mick
Gene-r Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) Sorry for sounding like a tart, but this sort of comment really gets on my tits. £150 invested in a ZERO risk 25 year bond would give you about £650 with a 6% interest rate. Hey, £150 would be worth something like £400 today, at a rough guess, if it increased in line with inflation!!!!!!! But if you had put you £150 into the FTSE 100, which by coincidence was formed a year after your mates "bargain" in 1983, it would now be worth something like £3000 (now there's a coincidence), even accounting for the recent falls in the stock market. Please, stop this back in the day nonsense. £150 in 1983 was not cheap (or expensive). Get over it, people. £150 invested in a rare soul record in 1983 is not the same as £150 cash today BTW Good record IMO James, We didn't come on here to discuss stocks, shares or rate of interest/inflation. Neither did I say, or even imply, that £150 was cheap "back in the day". In return, what really gets on my tits is people who twist statements to how they want to interpret them. So don't tell me what to do by asking us to stop this "back in the day nonsense" as you call it. Strange how it's only those who object were those who were running around in shorts and too young to even know about it (ie, the sour grapes brigade). Edited August 3, 2009 by Gene-R
Dylan Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 I would rather have had a bid on the john wesley that the same seller had. I think somebody got a good deal there at $750. But to even think $750 is a good price for a record is still crazy. I almost stuck a bid on myself but resisted.... now thats a proper soul record for you baz.
Gene-r Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) Deleted - first post mis-edited Edited August 3, 2009 by Gene-R
Ted Massey Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) I would rather have had a bid on the john wesley that the same seller had. I think somebody got a good deal there at $750. But to even think $750 is a good price for a record is still crazy. I almost stuck a bid on myself but resisted.... now thats a proper soul record for you baz. I looked at that, i had it back in the day (sorry james) but that label tear and the sound quality did not make that a good deal IMO Edited August 3, 2009 by Tedsoul
Guest James Trouble Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) James, We didn't come on here to discuss stocks, shares or rate of interest. Neither did I say, or even imply, that £150 was cheap "back in the day". In return, what really gets on my tits is people who twist statements to how they want to interpret them. So don't tell me what to do by asking us to stop this "back in the day nonsense" as you call it. Strange how it's only those who object were those who were running around in shorts and too young to even know about it. Why did you mention it? And put an exclamation mark after the £150 comment? What point were you making? Were you saying that £150 was a very fair price for a rare soul record in 1983? I don't think you were, now were you, Gene? I don't think those who object are "too young to know about it", I think those who object are the ones who are not stupid enough to think £150 for an ultra rare soul record in 1983 was cheap. James Trouble circa 1983 Edited August 3, 2009 by James Trouble
Gene-r Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) Why did you mention it? And put an exclamation mark after the £150 comment? What point were you making? Didn't realise you were a grammar pedant as well as someone who likes to twist the facts! Edited August 3, 2009 by Gene-R
Marc Forrest Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 ...Couldn't beleive my ears when I heard William Powell singing along with a basic piano backing, a song that was undoudtedly the genesis of Heartache Souvenirs - similar title too. Anybody else notice it? Cheers Mick yes Mick, very interesting side this one was indeed. Marc
Guest James Trouble Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) I looked at that, i had it back in the day (sorry james) but that label tear and the sound quality did not make that a good deal IMO Hey Ted, how are you? Keeping well, I hope? It's not the "back in the day" itself, it's the constant comparing of the price of records today to the price of records in the 70s and 80s in a 'shock horror' kind of way that is, quite frankly, ridiculous. Edited August 3, 2009 by James Trouble
Guest Matt Male Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Whatever the merits of it musically, it's definately a time and place record and for me a pure nostalgia record which is one of the reasons it always gets me up dancing. I wouldn't even pay £3k to get my wife back from kidnappers though
Gene-r Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Hey Ted, how are you? Keeping well, I hope? It's not the "back in the day" itself, it's the constant comparing of the price of records today to the price of records in the 70s and 80s in a 'shock horror' kind of way that is, quite frankly, ridiculous. Obviously sour grapes at having to pay 2000's prices for them then!
Guest James Trouble Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Didn't realise you were a grammar pedant as well as someone who likes to twist the facts! Why did you go to the effort of pressing the shift button if you didn't want to make out £150 in 1983 was cheap for a William Powell, when if you had taken a few seconds longer to think about it you'd realise £150 in 1983 is not cheap, but in fact about right.
Bigsoulman Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 But in the same week I didn't win an all time want I obtainded The wonderful "Things are not the same" - LUV CO - SPRING £15 15 quid? Lucky you then eh?
Guest James Trouble Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Obviously sour grapes at having to pay 2000's prices for them then! Yes, quite obvious that, nice one Gene, you're on the ball today
Ted Massey Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Hey Ted, how are you? Keeping well, I hope? It's not the "back in the day" itself, it's the constant comparing of the price of records today to the price of records in the 70s and 80s in a 'shock horror' kind of way that is, quite frankly, ridiculous. Im ok James hope you are now lets not get to pally what really pisses me of is that i didnt buy more of them at the time cause i could have afforded to. having said that i would think that my percentage gain in value over the years is not far of the stock market rise
paultp Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Sorry for sounding like a tart, but this sort of comment really gets on my tits. £150 invested in a ZERO risk 25 year bond would give you about £650 with a 6% interest rate. Hey, £150 would be worth something like £400 today, at a rough guess, if it increased in line with inflation!!!!!!! But if you had put you £150 into the FTSE 100, which by coincidence was formed a year after your mates "bargain" in 1983, it would now be worth something like £3000 (now there's a coincidence), even accounting for the recent falls in the stock market. Please, stop this back in the day nonsense. £150 in 1983 was not cheap (or expensive). Get over it, people. £150 invested in a rare soul record in 1983 is not the same as £150 cash today BTW Good record IMO I'm not sure anyone "invested money" in records in 1983 or am I missing the point? Nowadays its different though, mind you the record market looks like a similar bubble to the housing market but without a decent asset to back it up. The only reason to put money into records (other than for the love of it) is to hide it from the tax man or for money laundering. On topic: I think Heartache Souvenirs is a pants record, dull and repetitive. For me it is just stamp collecting, train spotting and/or knob waving to waste £3000+ on that particular piece of plasic. ..... Sorry, forgot the IMHO
Guest James Trouble Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Im ok James hope you are now lets not get to pally what really pisses me of is that i didnt buy more of them at the time cause i could have afforded to. having said that i would think that my percentage gain in value over the years is not far of the stock market rise Good point, Ted. And let's not get too pally, we don't want to ruin our reputations, hey? See you out and about soon...
Guest soulmaguk Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 3K is a bargain, great time to buy big, gonna be worth between 5K-8K in a couple of years. 7K record like margeret little will be worth 10K-12K. Get with the program I say, 9 times out of 10 the more you invest in a quality 45 the more return you will have, what ten quid record is gonna fetch big money in a couple of years that you know about, 99% of all soul 45s more or less have been discovered to date. We are we all experts on vinyl these days, but the old saying is 'no-one will ever know everything'
Pauldonnelly Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 15 quid? Lucky you then eh? I know, I know, I know I paid £10 over the odds...
Julianb Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 I'm with you on this one Steve, never really liked it. If some reckon George Lemmons can't sing, this bloke ain't far behind. Hi Chalky I agree - far too repetitious and monotonous for me as well. Julian
Pete S Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 I know, I know, I know I paid £10 over the odds... Not very often a record splits things down the middle like this - people seem to either love it or hate it.
Gene-r Posted August 3, 2009 Posted August 3, 2009 Yes, quite obvious that, nice one Gene, you're on the ball today Yes, you're not wrong - I am on the ball today! By the way, love the pic you posted! Was that you back in the day?
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