Are There Still Played Out Oldies?

[Guest DeeJay]

When i lived in the UK and went to do's on a regular basis (2/3 a week) it was easy to hear "played out oldies"and complain. Some i remember like:-

The Carstairs, (which sounds a little irreverent these days cos it's not arf bad, Sorry Pete)

Frank Wilson,

Johnny Bragg,

Lou Johnson Unsatisfied,

Sue Lynn Don't Pity Me,

General Assembly, Del Capris (construction) and the like .

We all used to complain, sat down, and waited for something "decent to listen to, Nowliving in the States what i'd give to get a "sniff" of anything like that (but that's another story) What i'd like to know is, is there a general conscensus of "played out oldies". Are there perhaps 20/30 choons that need a rest? So with me being out of the loop, as to what's played on a regular basis, i'd like to see4/5titles from people that have heard enough of a certain choon, (not the one you hate and don't ever want to hear. Just the choons that need to go on "holiday"for a few years!

DJ

[Gigs]

oldies take a rest ! never, cos I need em I,m a bit down on me luck at the moment,and if I had'nt got me oldies to listen to I'd have to go back in the gun cabinet arrrgghh

[steve]

When i lived in the UK and went to do's on a regular basis (2/3 a week) it was easy to hear "played out oldies"and complain. Some i remember like:-

The Carstairs, (which sounds a little irreverent these days cos it's not arf bad, Sorry Pete)

Frank Wilson,

Johnny Bragg,

Lou Johnson Unsatisfied,

Sue Lynn Don't Pity Me,

General Assembly, Del Capris (construction) and the like .

We all used to complain, sat down, and waited for something "decent to listen to, Nowliving in the States what i'd give to get a "sniff" of anything like that (but that's another story) What i'd like to know is, is there a general conscensus of "played out oldies". Are there perhaps 20/30 choons that need a rest? So with me being out of the loop, as to what's played on a regular basis, i'd like to see4/5titles from people that have heard enough of a certain choon, (not the one you hate and don't ever want to hear. Just the choons that need to go on "holiday"for a few years!

DJ

When I DJ at our do's, I play oldies in the late spots coz thats want the paying public want, I get request after request for them, when I do early spots I play lesser known records, I love the oldies and would listen to them all the time, they are timeless to me and earnt to right to be played

Steve

[Ian Parker]

IAN- The Dells - run for cover

The Vibrations - cause you're mine

Sydney Barnes - Solid ground

Millie jackson - house for sale

Bobby Womack - home is where me fart is

2 of those are great tunes but played to death (guess which )

Edited August 3, 2009 by soul-dancers

[cloth ears]

the chase is on ........johnny howard

stanky..............billie davies

dearly beloved.........jack montgommery................why not play the other side!!!!!!!!!!

theres plenty more, ................thats for sunday!!!!!

[Davetay]

The Dells - run for cover

The Vibrations - cause you're mine

Sydney Barnes - Solid ground

Millie jackson - house for sale

Bobby Womack - home is where me fart is

2 of those are great tunes but played to death (guess which )

Sorry all of them played to death.

[Davetay]

the chase is on ........johnny howard

stanky..............billie davies

dearly beloved.........jack montgommery................why not play the other side!!!!!!!!!!

theres plenty more, ................thats for sunday!!!!!

I agree play the other side of J.M.

[Steve L]

The simple answer to the original question is......YES - loads, too many to mention

[Modernsoulsucks]

If it's in my collection I don't really want to hear it and if it isn't I don't mind. After 40 years as far as trad. 60's Northern sound is concerned played out oldies and newies tend to be not much different really with some exceptions.

ROD

[Guest DeeJay]

When i lived in the UK and went to do's on a regular basis (2/3 a week) it was easy to hear "played out oldies"and complain. Some i remember like:-

The Carstairs, (which sounds a little irreverent these days cos it's not arf bad, Sorry Pete)

Frank Wilson,

Johnny Bragg,

Lou Johnson Unsatisfied,

Sue Lynn Don't Pity Me,

General Assembly, Del Capris (construction) and the like .

We all used to complain, sat down, and waited for something "decent to listen to, Nowliving in the States what i'd give to get a "sniff" of anything like that (but that's another story) What i'd like to know is, is there a general conscensus of "played out oldies". Are there perhaps 20/30 choons that need a rest? So with me being out of the loop, as to what's played on a regular basis, i'd like to see4/5titles from people that have heard enough of a certain choon, (not the one you hate and don't ever want to hear. Just the choons that need to go on "holiday"for a few years!

DJ

Thanks for the replies folks. Would appreciate some more lists (that's what i aked for) Interesting that some of the titles are the same old story Vibrations, Millie Jackson. Don't know Sidney Barnes or Stanky. Surprised about Bobby Womack and Johnny Howard. The Dells and Jack Montgomery were fairly hallowed choons a few years ago Not sure about the B side of Jack M i have it and ive played it i know it's not as good as the a side.I wondered if some played out oldies were regional.

The Dells - run for cover

The Vibrations - cause you're mine

Sydney Barnes - Solid ground

Millie jackson - house for sale

Bobby Womack - home is where me fart is

the chase is on ........johnny howard

stanky..............billie davies

dearly beloved.........jack montgommery................why not play the other side!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest]

I have no problem with " overplayed " oldies . If a familiar tune comes on , I do not class it as an inconvinience to the enjoyment of my night , I accept it for what it is / was - a contribution to why I have an involvement in this scene of ours ......

Consider this : the playing time of / for the majority of so - called " overplayed " oldies , is at the most 3 minutes : the act of sex can last just as long , but I doubt many people will turn their noses up and say " Oh no , not that again " ......

Malc Burton

Edited August 2, 2009 by Malc Burton

[Russ Vickers]

The simple answer my friend is 'yes'.................however, before we start the debate again & i get verbally burnt at the stake, there is a time & a place & just because i dont want to hear them every week doesnt mean i dont actually like & appreciate them. If its an oldies doooooooooo then fill ya boots, if its a regular Nighter then i would prefer to hear less obvious tunes played........Rod makes a very good point, there are very few totally unknown records these days, most have had an odd play at least, but i'm partial to an odd oldie, just would prefer for DJ's to dig deeper........my fave at the moment is Eugene Smiley & the Essence of Love............now i had literally almost totally forgotten this record, now that to me is the Essence of a great oldie.

Hope you are are well mate, you gonna make Hitsville ???

Russ

[Jez Jones]

I have no problem with " overplayed " oldies . If a familiar tune comes on , I do not class it as an inconvinience to the enjoyment of my night , I accept it for what it is / was - a contribution to why I have an involvement in this scene of ours ......

Consider this : the playing time of / for the majority of so - called " overplayed " oldies , is at the most 3 minutes : the act of sex can last just as long , but I doubt many people will turn their noses up and say " Oh no , not that again " ......

Malc Burton

Morning Malc

Now that is just boasting , young fella me lad,--I would normally gauge my participation rather akin to the duration of 'Stay---Virginia wolves'

[bri pinch]

PERSONALLY ANYTHING ON TAMLA MOTOWN NEEDS A REST FOR ME. IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T LIKE MOTOWN, I LOVE IT BUT I,M SICK OF GOING TO DO'S WHER THEY'LL PLAY LIKE HALF A DOZEN MOTOWNS ON THE TROT A COUPLE MORE CLASSICS AND THEN ANOTHER HALF A DOZEN MOTOWNS, WELL THEY DO IN ALL THE LOCAL DO'S INT TARN.

BRI PINCH.

SUNDAY CHILLOUT,16TH AUGUST, HORSE AND GROOM PUB, EAST LAITH GATE, DONCASTER.

FRIENDSHIP @ THE KINGSTONE CLUB SAT 29TH AUGUST.

HULL SOUL CLUB, FRI, 4TH SEPT.

[Phild]

PERSONALLY ANYTHING ON TAMLA MOTOWN NEEDS A REST FOR ME. IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T LIKE MOTOWN, I LOVE IT BUT I,M SICK OF GOING TO DO'S WHER THEY'LL PLAY LIKE HALF A DOZEN MOTOWNS ON THE TROT A COUPLE MORE CLASSICS AND THEN ANOTHER HALF A DOZEN MOTOWNS, WELL THEY DO IN ALL THE LOCAL DO'S INT TARN.

BRI PINCH.

I agree, but it is possible to play Tamla Motown and NOT fall into the predictable trap of same old, same old. A couple that spring to mind are Shortly Long - Out To Get You, Stevie Wonder - Hey Love and The Temptations - Fading Away.

Phil

[bri pinch]

I agree, but it is possible to play Tamla Motown and NOT fall into the predictable trap of same old, same old. A couple that spring to mind are Shortly Long - Out To Get You, Stevie Wonder - Hey Love and The Temptations - Fading Away.

Phil

AGREE PHIL, IS ALWAYS THE SAME, JNR WALKER, TUNE UP, LAST CALL, BRAINWASHER, MORE LIKE BRAIN HEMMORHAGE AAAAAAAAARRRRRGH

BRI PINCH.

[Phild]

AGREE PHIL, IS ALWAYS THE SAME, JNR WALKER, TUNE UP, LAST CALL, BRAINWASHER, MORE LIKE BRAIN HEMMORHAGE AAAAAAAAARRRRRGH

BRI PINCH.

I know exactly what you mean Bri

[Guest DeeJay]

The simple answer my friend is 'yes'.................however, before we start the debate again & i get verbally burnt at the stake, there is a time & a place & just because i dont want to hear them every week doesnt mean i dont actually like & appreciate them. If its an oldies doooooooooo then fill ya boots, if its a regular Nighter then i would prefer to hear less obvious tunes played........Rod makes a very good point, there are very few totally unknown records these days, most have had an odd play at least, but i'm partial to an odd oldie, just would prefer for DJ's to dig deeper........my fave at the moment is Eugene Smiley & the Essence of Love............now i had literally almost totally forgotten this record, now that to me is the Essence of a great oldie.

Hope you are are well mate, you gonna make Hitsville ???

Russ

Eyup lad would love to go to Hitsville but logistics and time with a wife in full time job plus bairns 2 and 6 make it hard work But!! where theres a will Theres a way!! Would love to do another radio show with you maybe i could play a few decent ones!!!

take care-mate

[Ernie Andrews]

Overplayed oldies-

Depends on what you call an oldie? or definition of an oldie?

You can have overplayed newies as well - like Ellipses / Hop skip and jump etc

Id love to see DJ playlists where they play a completely different set from one do to the next

I love the challenge of "across the board" as this usually means carefully working one genre into another which imo is a skill.

Its easy to play a set of Classic oldies- Mixing them up with other genres and keeping people happy is much more of an skillful objective move In my lowly opnion.

[Mark Bicknell]

One of the main reasons I don't DJ that much anymore is because of the exspectation and demands of the dance floor which in most cases is the same old same as, to be frank it bores the shit out of me to be honest, the odd spot where you have a free hand on the selections you play are few and far between but worth it when you can express what you are really about musically, far too often we hear it's what the paying public want but do people not get fed up and bored with hearing the same tunes week in week out? We have over forty years of records and club culture to select from so there is really no need to play the same tunes constantly, would it not be fair to suggest that we can select and cherry pick all the best bits which is certainly my intention with the Droylsden allnighter in the future.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

[Tim Smithers]

One of the main reasons I don't DJ that much anymore is because of the exspectation and demands of the dance floor which in most cases is the same old same as, to be frank it bores the shit out of me to be honest, the odd spot where you have a free hand on the selections you play are few and far between but worth it when you can express what you are really about musically, far too often we hear it's what the paying public want but do people not get fed up and bored with hearing the same tunes week in week out? We have over forty years of records and club culture to select from so there is really no need to play the same tunes constantly, would it not be fair to suggest that we can select and cherry pick all the best bits which is certainly my intention with the Droylsden allnighter in the future.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Thats the same reason i dont play out more, o yeah, i dont get asked as well lol

[Mark S]

Personally I dont give a damn (see what I did there ) just glad to get out of the house I like the idea of across the board I love oldies and want to hear newer stuff as well . I go to a few scooter rallies and unless ther is a seperate northern room the soul they play is pretty dire and predictable .

[grantdyche]

I have no problem with " overplayed " oldies . If a familiar tune comes on , I do not class it as an inconvinience to the enjoyment of my night , I accept it for what it is / was - a contribution to why I have an involvement in this scene of ours ......

Consider this : the playing time of / for the majority of so - called " overplayed " oldies , is at the most 3 minutes : the act of sex can last just as long , but I doubt many people will turn their noses up and say " Oh no , not that again " ......

Malc Burton

Sex can last for 3 minutes f**k me Malc dont tell my misses

Grant

[Guest gordon russell]

It's whole sets of well known oldies one after another that are BORING.Also the attitude of a lot of the oldies crowd...all sat down as if waiting for the bingo to start.The places l like are the ones that play 60's/uptempo r&b and underplayed goodies and a sprinkling of oldies.......to me this makes for a kicking night.....right on.....tezza

[Guest]

It's whole sets of well known oldies one after another that are BORING.Also the attitude of a lot of the oldies crowd...all sat down as if waiting for the bingo to start.The places l like are the ones that play 60's/uptempo r&b and underplayed goodies and a sprinkling of oldies.......to me this makes for a kicking night.....right on.....tezza

sounds like across the board to me.. I can't get why people seem to object to that term so much though..

agree though, that a mix as you've described above works for me too.

Jayne.x

[Guest Mark Holmes]

Is this a dig because I played Mickey Moonshine in Seattle two years in a row

Looking forward to you spinning the Belmonts this year

But its true when you live in the soul desert as we do, part of the thrill of it all is a heaving mass of people zoned out to top quality soul music old or new, underplayed, rare as hens teeth it doesn't matter for me.

[spot]

The simple answer to the original question is......YES - loads, too many to mention

Theres also thousands of good lesser played Oldies that need reviving, the reason the others are played out is it's always the same 100'ish that are played which shows a lack of imagination & plain laziness on the Dj's part & the consumers.

It's whole sets of well known oldies one after another that are BORING.Also the attitude of a lot of the oldies crowd...all sat down as if waiting for the bingo to start.The places l like are the ones that play 60's/uptempo r&b and underplayed goodies and a sprinkling of oldies.......to me this makes for a kicking night.....right on.....tezza

Couldn't agree more Tezza but you forgot how they "Piss & Moan" whilst anything after 31st December 1969 is being played or if someone like Sam is on & that's after we've listened to 3 hours or so of Soul's equivalent to repetative strain injury, sad really, btw what time does Bingo start???

Take care,be safe & remember,"They're all bloody Oldies, just like us",

Spot.

[Guest]

Theres also thousands of good lesser played Oldies that need reviving, the reason the others are played out is it's always the same 100'ish that are played which shows a lack of imagination & plain laziness on the Dj's part & the consumers.

The well known promoter and bon viveur , Terry Sampson had a good view of the record selection by a DJ , which we can equate very well into this scenario ......

He stated that " In an hour , you can play 20 records : Make them 20 of your best "

Time for the DJs to adopt a similar battle plan - " play 20 of your best , not 20 like the rest "

Malc Burton

Edited August 21, 2009 by Malc Burton

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

stop playing The MVP's and stuff like Millie Jackson - House for Sale

would love to hear Dobie Gray - Out on the Floor again (rarely played) and My Man is a Sweet Man

[Guest DeeJay]

Is this a dig because I played Mickey Moonshine in Seattle two years in a row

Looking forward to you spinning the Belmonts this year

But its true when you live in the soul desert as we do, part of the thrill of it all is a heaving mass of people zoned out to top quality soul music old or new, underplayed, rare as hens teeth it doesn't matter for me.

Hey Pete Smith was right about the intro. Thought id put the wrong side on at first. Dont remember it being that good at the beginning. Just remember the chorus. Eerrrrr by the way it wont be a Seattle spin!!!!