Sheldonsoul Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 felt i had to say something, bit peed off with listing records and getting pm"s from people wanting to buy them, then refuse offers from other buyers and never hearing from the first buyer again . couple of months ago was selling shorty long out to get you,tammi terrell come on and see me,tmg issues within 10 minutes a certain member offered around £220 for both deal done , later knocked back two other buyers told them they were sold,then the following day the first buyer whose name i will not repeat pulls out cos hes skint . think most people on ss are genuine, but if you cant afford dont commit to a seller saying you want that record ,when you havent got the funds , theres two or three members i could name who have done this to me ,total timewasters
dthedrug Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 felt i had to say something, bit peed off with listing records and getting pm"s from people wanting to buy them, then refuse offers from other buyers and never hearing from the first buyer again . couple of months ago was selling shorty long out to get you,tammi terrell come on and see me,tmg issues within 10 minutes a certain member offered around £220 for both deal done , later knocked back two other buyers told them they were sold,then the following day the first buyer whose name i will not repeat pulls out cos hes skint . think most people on ss are genuine, but if you cant afford dont commit to a seller saying you want that record ,when you haven't got the funds , there's two or three members i could name who have done this to me ,total time wasters Name & Shame? is what I say However be tactful the old Liable laws? DAVE KIL
Sheldonsoul Posted July 26, 2009 Author Posted July 26, 2009 wish i could name and shame mate, just aint on when you lose sales over these twats
Pete S Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 Welcome to my world! I get this every week, without fail. Even this week, I have about 12 ska records on hold for people who reserved them on friday and haven't come back to me to confirm, meaning I can't let anyone else who asked about them know if they are available, and making it look like I'm not even bothering to reply. Come monday, I'll tell the original people I'm selling them to someone else and blacklist them.
Sheldonsoul Posted July 26, 2009 Author Posted July 26, 2009 Welcome to my world! I get this every week, without fail. Even this week, I have about 12 ska records on hold for people who reserved them on friday and haven't come back to me to confirm, meaning I can't let anyone else who asked about them know if they are available, and making it look like I'm not even bothering to reply. Come monday, I'll tell the original people I'm selling them to someone else and blacklist them. yeh but what really does my head in is ,why tell a seller you want a record when they proberbly have no intentions at all of buying the record, which in all is losing us a possible sale to someone else
paup-ine Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 yeh but what really does my head in is ,why tell a seller you want a record when they proberbly have no intentions at all of buying the record, which in all is losing us a possible sale to someone else If you've got access to a card machine, make em pay straight away, or tell every one its for sale, first person to post the money gets it? If they want it, they will pay quickly. Thats how we used to do it by mail order lists. It must be a PIA though! P
Guest Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 yeh but what really does my head in is ,why tell a seller you want a record when they proberbly have no intentions at all of buying the record, which in all is losing us a possible sale to someone else maybe done when pissed or whatever & re-consider when sober? not right though. I wonder if more of the less reliable offers are received during the early hours? Jayne.
Epic Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 Obviously ALL the people have access to pc's etc - It is not hard to use paypal, credit card or bank transfer to make an instant sale - there is NO excuse for not seeing through a record deal - after all NOBODY twisted their arm to commit to buy. When I use Ebay to "Buy It Now" the total transaction takes less than a minute - everybody's happy - that's how easy it is - all other deals should be (where possible) conducted in the same manner.
Diddy Morgan Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 i'd keep a list of renagers (is that a real word?)!! and never reserve an item again...simple as that. must be a tiny minority of members who fail to pay though.
Supercorsa Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 If I don't have the funds to buy something that I really want, I ask if it can be held (normally until payday) if at all possible. Then I usually pay for these before paying the rent & bills!
Modernsoulsucks Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 I can understand the frustration but I can't see that venting it on here is any answer to the problem. Personally I've never had anyone let me down although once or twice maybe a bit slow to pay as I tend toward the pay pretty immediately school myself. The instance of the 2 x Motown 45s is regrettable but at least the non-buyer did get in touch next day. If I don't know the buyer who reserves 45s and someone else orders after I usually say record is reseved but they can always check back in a week to see if sale has gone through. I think we need to identify "serial" non-buyers only. To do that you'd have to "name and shame", as Dave points out, so that the information can be shared amongst sellers and some kinda blacklist drawn up. The odd let-down whilst a pain for the seller is really to be expected amongst a clientelle whose pursuit of vinyl sometimes sees common sense fly out the window. ROD
Sheldonsoul Posted July 26, 2009 Author Posted July 26, 2009 its not in my nature to name and shame,just wont even contemplate dealing with them again, if i purchase from e bay i allways try to pay within the hour,then again i dont suppose everyones like me
Raresoul45s Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 I like to keep it as simple as possible, so i always say yes its yours on receipt of a small deposit, normally 10%. Then you find out whos serious and whos not. Latley Ive had many offers on big ticket records that people ask me to hold with no deposit which I wont, unless they are people who I deal with on a regular basis or know. That said if someone calls me and says can i give you £50 on £1k+ item and i'll pay in a 6 or 8 weeks I have absolutley no problem with that as long as we all know where we stand. I think any reasonable buyer will understand if you ask for a deposit on a record over a few hundred quid. With regard to naming people i think thats fair if someone lets you down, you dont have to slag anyone off just say let down by ........... and they can then respond and defend themselves if they want. ATB Darren www.raresoul45s.co.uk
paup-ine Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 I like to keep it as simple as possible, so i always say yes its yours on receipt of a small deposit, normally 10%. Then you find out whos serious and whos not. Latley Ive had many offers on big ticket records that people ask me to hold with no deposit which I wont, unless they are people who I deal with on a regular basis or know. That said if someone calls me and says can i give you £50 on £1k+ item and i'll pay in a 6 or 8 weeks I have absolutley no problem with that as long as we all know where we stand. I think any reasonable buyer will understand if you ask for a deposit on a record over a few hundred quid. With regard to naming people i think thats fair if someone lets you down, you dont have to slag anyone off just say let down by ........... and they can then respond and defend themselves if they want. ATB Darren www.raresoul45s.co.uk I think its best not to say too much. What if that person has a record for sale you that you would like? Just my thoughts, P
Guest Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 I like to keep it as simple as possible, so i always say yes its yours on receipt of a small deposit, normally 10%. Then you find out whos serious and whos not. Latley Ive had many offers on big ticket records that people ask me to hold with no deposit which I wont, unless they are people who I deal with on a regular basis or know. That said if someone calls me and says can i give you £50 on £1k+ item and i'll pay in a 6 or 8 weeks I have absolutley no problem with that as long as we all know where we stand. I think any reasonable buyer will understand if you ask for a deposit on a record over a few hundred quid. With regard to naming people i think thats fair if someone lets you down, you dont have to slag anyone off just say let down by ........... and they can then respond and defend themselves if they want. ATB Darren www.raresoul45s.co.uk I think you've hit the nail on the head. I ask people to hold records for me sometimes for a week or so but only people who I have bought reasonable amounts of stuff off of before - that way they know I'm not a timewaster. I think the best way is to only agree to hold stuff if it's a regular, reliable customer, that way you know you'll get the money and you can bank on it as a sale. Serious buyers will not want to abuse that trust once it's created and so that system works for everybody. First and second time purchasers? Cash on the nail please....
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