Guest Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Hi guys & gals can anyone tell me how to get hold of this track , i'm under the impression its unreleased ?? so is it an album track ?? Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks luv Di xxxx
Guest Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) Hi guys & gals can anyone tell me how to get hold of this track , i'm under the impression its unreleased ?? so is it an album track ?? Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks luv Di xxxx Could have had a carver at Cleggy as a swap,settled for £20 and a record blind (right load of tosh) thinking about it now should took the carver,fantastic record hope i see him before he see's this Edited July 8, 2009 by ken
Guest Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 Thanks guys so to clarify , you cant get it on an album ? lol xxx
Sebastian Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 (edited) so to clarify , you cant get it on an album ? You can get it on this official CD that was issued a couple of years ago: https://www.amazon.co.../dp/B000VNT97Q/ It was never officially released on 45 or LP. Edited July 9, 2009 by Sebastian
Benji Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Andy Rix turned it up on studio acetate many years ago I think?
Mike Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 posts removed sorry but that goes against site rules on cds etc
Guest Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 posts removed sorry but that goes against site rules on cds etc ooops sorry Mike , didnt realise xxxx
Kev Harker Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 ooops sorry Mike , didnt realise xxxx ooops sorry Mike,my fault realised to late, well I have been on early shift. kev
Patto Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 What a fantastic slab of Northern soul this is.I first heard it played by Richard Searling late 90s manchester ritz nighter and tried for years to get a sound file of it.Then as said previously it came out on the CD DEREK MARTIN--THE ROULETTE RECORDINGS.I got a carver done of it along with another unissued track BABY WHAT CHANGED YOUR MIND
Paul Shirley Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 yeah fantastic track. i also have it on a carver was trying to keep it to my self but it aint working
Chalky Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Andy Rix turned it up on studio acetate many years ago I think? First I've heard??? Well I've never heard Andy or Rob spin it. Butch and Richard Searling got the only acetates as far as I was aware. Maybe Andy will confirm if he does have it when he reads it. The cd it is on is highly recommended. 13 unissued tracks with at least 4 or 5 of them top notch!
Patto Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 yeah fantastic track. i also have it on a carver was trying to keep it to my self but it aint working What do you think of the (Baby what changed your mind) track Steptoe it could work played out me thinks
Kev Harker Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 First I've heard??? Well I've never heard Andy or Rob spin it. Butch and Richard Searling got the only acetates as far as I was aware. Maybe Andy will confirm if he does have it when he reads it. The cd it is on is highly recommended. 13 unissued tracks with at least 4 or 5 of them top notch! The cd it is on is highly recommended. 13 unissued tracks with at least 4 or 5 of them top notch! second that. yes great booklet with it as well,lots of info and scans. great value. kev
Chalky Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 (edited) What do you think of the (Baby what changed your mind) track Steptoe it could work played out me thinks I've played it out but the one that really does it for me is I Can't Take It No More. Been playing this out, getting noticed and a good reaction. I put them up in refosoul last year. Edited July 9, 2009 by chalky
Benji Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 First I've heard??? Well I've never heard Andy or Rob spin it. Butch and Richard Searling got the only acetates as far as I was aware. Maybe Andy will confirm if he does have it when he reads it. The cd it is on is highly recommended. 13 unissued tracks with at least 4 or 5 of them top notch! Chalky, you're right, Butch/Searling not Rix. I mixed it up with something else. Actually, I remember when Searling played it on his radio show back then. I think Butch's acetate is a slightly different take? Do I remember correctly, Flashback is an unissued Teddy Randazzo (a.k.a. Razzle Dazzle) production and pretty similar to his Roulette goodie "Breakaway"??
Chalky Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Derek Martin - I Can't Take It No More - previously unissued - Derek Martin - After All Is Said And Done - previously unissued - Derek Martin - Baby, What Changed Your Mind - previously unissued -
Paul Shirley Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 sorry can't comment as mine has a diferent track on the flip
Pomonkey Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Here's the story as far as I know it: there are 3 different acetates of the DM, but on 2 of them the studio technician messed up and the first 20-30 seconds are recorded way low until they crank the dial up, so really only the 1 with the sound constantly high all the way through is any good. All 3 were at Rich Rosen's in Vegas about 12 years ago, but by the time I got there Butch (I believe it was him) had already bought the first, Rich being Rich of course he wanted the same money for either of the others despite the sound quality, so obviously declined the "kind" offer. But he did have the studio listings showing that there were indeed only these. Years went by and was playing some oddball stuff out and about when ears picked up, found an unknown blue-eyed garage version, not soul but still a winner, by the Noon Express - kept quiet on it for a year or two while tracking down others, even one copy in a picture sleeve, played it out a lot here in NY and always went down great, eventually sold one to Rob Bailey back in the UK who put it on one of Le Beat Bespoke comps so word got out, goes for about $300 when it shows now. Which is a lot better alternative than admitting to playing carvers off comps 1
Paul Shirley Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 ah thanks chalky . well now that i have reard it ' i was thinking this is good but them bloody harp strings or whatever they are spoil it for me ,
jocko Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Years went by and was playing some oddball stuff out and about when ears picked up, found an unknown blue-eyed garage version, not soul but still a winner, by the Noon Express - ................ , goes for about $300 when it shows now. Which is a lot better alternative than admitting to playing carvers off comps So its a lot better to play a non soul record because its rare and hard to find than an unreleased f***ing fantastic soul record thats had little or no exposure because its on a CD. That sums up why 95% of todays Northern scene is lost up its own ass. Glad to see its not just us Brits who have lost our way on this wacko scene! Another unbelievable statement, pass the Gin bucket darling.
Paul Shirley Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 i was just about to say somthing along the same lines jocko
Pomonkey Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Can't wait to see your playlist, Mello Souls, Junior McCants and Frank Wilson too I'm sure, awesome. Loved your logic that you playing it for 30 of your mates is somehow bigger exposure than a track that everyone knows Butch spins regularly and everyone on the scene knows, let alone a cd that anyone in this day and age who loves great and rare soul music can easily figure out exists and buy for themselves online in a couple of keystrokes, insanely laughable, thanks for that one. Are you going to tape Butch's entire next set and carve it so you can rescue all his other rarest records from such tragic musical oblivion too? Give it a break. Boring subject anyway, the whole for/against carver argument has been repeated on dozens of these threads so don't waste your time or breath. Just figured you'd at least appreciate more of the story behind the track seeing as the one - and only - thing we can at least agree on is yes, it's great.
jocko Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Can't wait to see your playlist, Mello Souls, Junior McCants and Frank Wilson too I'm sure, awesome. Loved your logic that you playing it for 30 of your mates is somehow bigger exposure than a track that everyone knows Butch spins regularly and everyone on the scene knows, let alone a cd that anyone in this day and age who loves great and rare soul music can easily figure out exists and buy for themselves online in a couple of keystrokes, insanely laughable, thanks for that one. Are you going to tape Butch's entire next set and carve it so you can rescue all his other rarest records from such tragic musical oblivion too? Give it a break. Boring subject anyway, the whole for/against carver argument has been repeated on dozens of these threads so don't waste your time or breath. Just figured you'd at least appreciate more of the story behind the track seeing as the one - and only - thing we can at least agree on is yes, it's great. Read the thread again, no-one was talking about playing Flashback off carver, although that would be preferable to playing a non soul record, it was the other tracks of the CD that have had no or little exposure, and more importantly are soul tracks, I always prefer playing soul tracks, and I dont actually have any carvers anywhere so maybe you want to do a little more research And WTF is comment about 30 of my mates, want to explain that as I have no idea what you are on about, where did I say anything about that? You have completely lost me here mate, want to explain it? And re the taping Butch's set, do a little more homework before you throw insults sonny, you really have very little idea. I was going to say I dont dj so I can only do my home play list, but tomorrow is the exception, I'll send you it, probably mostly under £50 I will warn you. I repeat the premise of my statement, you stated its better to play a non soul record because its rare and hard to find did you not? I am a soul fan and despite the attempt of some on here to ridicule that these days, I like to keep my soul scene to soul records, old fashioned I know but thats the kind of man I am!
Pomonkey Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 Nope, saying a) don't buy into playing carvers out if you're open to more than traditional soul there's another version of this track you can get to own if you hear it and find you like it. Hope you do, no foul if you don't!
Guest Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Well if i buy the CD i will carve it and will be on my play list,and i'll give the CD a plug while i'm at it.....truth is i'm too fukcin' lazy.
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