Where Do I Start?

July 1, 2009

Afternoon All

After years of loving and enjoying RnB and 60's Soul, I'm now really starting to dig Ska and Jamaican R&B but i know absolutely nowt about it!!

Can anyone help me with some websites, books etc so i can have a browse, a listen and learn a bit more????

There are just so many obscure Artists, labels etc that i really don't know where to start. I buy shedloads of compilations but it doesn't really give me the labels or artist information i want. The same with buying vinyl......Now and again, i want something to go in my box, I have a butchers on ebay, can't find it and then give up because i don't know where else to look. Or i Popsike it, find it last sold for a few thousand quid and then sob quietly not knowing if there are re-issues available

Help would be gratefully appreciated

Teresa

Pete S · July 1, 2009

Afternoon All

After years of loving and enjoying RnB and 60's Soul, I'm now really starting to dig Ska and Jamaican R&B but i know absolutely nowt about it!!
Can anyone help me with some websites, books etc so i can have a browse, a listen and learn a bit more????

There are just so many obscure Artists, labels etc that i really don't know where to start. I buy shedloads of compilations but it doesn't really give me the labels or artist information i want. The same with buying vinyl......Now and again, i want something to go in my box, I have a butchers on ebay, can't find it and then give up because i don't know where else to look. Or i Popsike it, find it last sold for a few thousand quid and then sob quietly not knowing if there are re-issues available

Help would be gratefully appreciated

Teresa

Best books are The Rough Guide To reggae, should be available everywhere, and one called Reggae & Carribean Musi9c by dave Thompson (www.backbeatbooks.com) not sure how much but I bought it for 4.99 in Walsall a few years ago - this is so good I've read the print off it, and it reviews hudreds of 45's from the 60's. The two books by Sanctuary are good too, Tighten Up and Young Gidted & Black, all about Trojan and the UK reggae scene, both still available.

Music wise, see if you can find any of my old podcasts (search on here) if I was able to advertise I could do you a few thousand tracks on disc but I can't so...

there's a few forums too, will try and get back to you with more info but looks like I have to go out for a bit!

July 1, 2009

Thanks for that Pete!

I'm gonna start with search on the books and browse for the podcasts, starting tonight when it all goes quiet here. :shhh:

July 1, 2009

wasn't there a trojan R&B boxset ? with the brillaint derrick harriott "i won't cry"

ZapatootheTiger · July 1, 2009

what a coincidence farrah fawcett and michael jackson dying on the same day .

one f****d majors , the other f****d minors

Yep - "Trojan Jamaican R&B Box Set" (Trojan TJETD042 / 2002) - super set of JA tunes from 1960 to 1962 - worth it for Owen Gray's scorching MIDNIGHT TRACK alone

IMHO :tumbleweed3:

1. Jiving Juniors ~ I WANNA LOVE (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
2. Laurel Aitken ~ DRINKIN' WHISKEY (1960) - R&B Records Production
3. Bluesbusters ~ PLEADING FOR MERCY (1961) - Joe Williams Production
4. Lloyd Clarke ~ JAPANESE GIRL (1962) - Stanley Motta Production
5. Owen Gray ~ NOBODY ELSE (1961) - Unspecified Producer
6. Derrick Harriott ~ I WON'T CRY (1963) - Derrick Harriott Production
7. Jimmy James ~ I DON'T WANT TO CRY (1962) - Linden Pottinger Production
8. Duke Reid (Group, All Stars or Band) ~ WHAT MAKES HONEY (1961) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
9. Jiving Juniors ~ MY HEART'S DESIRE (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
10. Laurel Aitken ~ LOW DOWN DIRTY GIRL (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
11. Keith & Enid ~ WORRIED OVER YOU (1960) - Simeon Smith Production
12. Rico Rodriguez ~ CONTINENTAL SHUFFLE (1960) - Lloyd 'The Matador' Daley Production
13. Owen Gray ~ MASH IT (PTS. 1 AND 2) (1960) - Unspecified Producer
14. Derrick Morgan ~ OH MY! (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
15. Theophilus Beckford ~ WALKING DOWN KING STREET (1961) - D.E.Dunkley Production
16. Chuck & Dobby ~ TIL THE END OF TIME (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
17. Mellow Larks ~ ALBUM OF MEMORY (1960) - Simeon Smith Production
18. Laurel Aitken ~ JUDGEMENT DAY (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
19. Lloyd Clarke ~ PARAPINTO BOOGIE (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
20. Jiving Juniors ~ LOLLIPOP GIRL (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
21. Roland Alphonso ~ BRIDGEVIEW SHUFFLE (1960) - Lloyd 'The Matador' Daley Production
22. Derrick & Patsy ~ OH MY LOVE (1962) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
23. Owen Gray ~ JENNY LEE (1960) - R&B Records Production
24. Bluesbusters ~ LOST MY BABY (1961) - R&B Records Production
25. Cosmo & Dennis ~ TONIGHT AND EVERMORE (1962) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
26. Kent Brown ~ HEY DIDDLE DIDDLE (1962) - D.E.Dunkley Production
27. Lloyd Clarke ~ NOW I KNOW THE REASON (1961) - Simeon Smith Production
28. Laurel Aitken ~ HONEY GIRL (1960) - R&B Records Production
29. Rico Rodriguez ~ MAGIC (1961) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
30. Jiving Juniors ~ I LOVE YOU (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
31. Bluesbusters ~ EARLY ONE MORNING (1960) - Limbo Records Production
32. Bubbles ~ WASP, THE (1960) - Fay Abrahams Production
33. Owen Gray ~ COME ON BABY (1962) - Chek Records Production
34. Bluesbusters ~ I NEED SOME LOVING (1961) - Limbo Records Production
35. Magic Notes ~ ROSABEL (1960) - Simeon Smith Production
36. Derrick & Patsy ~ LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL (1961) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
37. Keith & Enid ~ WHEN IT'S SPRING (1962) - Fay Abrahams Production
38. Owen Gray ~ MIDNIGHT TRACK (1962) - Charlie Moo Production
39. Laurel Aitken ~ YEA YEA BABY (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
40. Jimmy Cliff ~ DEAREST BEVERLEY (1962) - Leslie Kong / Beverley's Production
41. Mossman & Zeddse ~ POCKET MONEY (1961) - D.E.Dunkley Production
42. Lloyd Clarke ~ YOU'RE A CHEAT (1961) - Simeon Smith Production
43. Jiving Juniors ~ DEAREST DARLING (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
44. Roy & Patsy ~ MY HAPPY HOME (1962) - Linden Pottinger Production
45. Shenley Duffus ~ OVER AND OVER (1960) - Simeon Smith Production
46. Rico Rodriguez ~ BLUES FROM THE HILLS (1961) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
47. Owen Gray ~ ROCKING IN MY FEET (1961) - Faith Records Production
48. Duke Reid (Group, All Stars or Band) ~ DUKE'S COOKIES (1961) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
49. Bluesbusters ~ LITTLE VILMA (1960) - Limbo Records Production
50. Sir Dee's Group ~ GRANDFATHER'S CLOCK, THE (1961) - Theophilus Beckford & Delroy Dunkley Production

TOAD · July 1, 2009

CHECK THESE OUT

DUB VENDOR

DANCE CRASHER

ROCKA A SHOCKA

HONEST JOHNS RECORDS

PODAMATIC LOTS OF PODCASTS ALL ERAS

PAMA FORUM

HIT THE TOWN

HEARTBEAT RECORDS ... FOR STUDIO ONE AND TREASURE ISLE.. PLENTYOF SKA THERE

Edited July 2, 2009 by TOAD

ZapatootheTiger · July 1, 2009

...plus there are some cracking Ska compilations, Teresa - if you need some indications, just ask :tumbleweed3:

Pete S · July 1, 2009

HERE HAVE A LISTEN TO THIS - ANYBODY - JUST PLAY IT FOR THE RONALD WILSON TRACK EVEN!

https://planetrecords.podbean.com/2009/05/02/hot-bomb-ska-rocksteady-early-reggae/

July 2, 2009

HERE HAVE A LISTEN TO THIS - ANYBODY - JUST PLAY IT FOR THE RONALD WILSON TRACK EVEN!
https://planetrecords...y-early-reggae/

SIR LORD COMIC & THE SKATALITES - FOUR SEASONS - KING EDWARDS/////// & THE ZODIACS - RENEGADE - ISLAND ........... Not made it as far as the Ronald Wilson before i fell in love with these ones!!!

The rest are playing now and i don't want to go to work!!!

July 2, 2009

...plus there are some cracking Ska compilations, Teresa - if you need some indications, just ask

I'd really love some recommendations!!!!!

Please bring em on!

I've brought shedloads of the Trojan Boxsets and they make up the majority of my listening, so anything would be so gratefully appreciated

July 2, 2009

wasn't there a trojan R&B boxset ? with the brillaint derrick harriott "i won't cry"

Ello Lovely Man Up Norf

Yep..... I know the track, tis a majestic compilation too!

July 2, 2009

Yep - "Trojan Jamaican R&B Box Set" (Trojan TJETD042 / 2002) - super set of JA tunes from 1960 to 1962 - worth it for Owen Gray's scorching MIDNIGHT TRACK alone

IMHO

1. Jiving Juniors ~ I WANNA LOVE (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
2. Laurel Aitken ~ DRINKIN' WHISKEY (1960) - R&B Records Production
3. Bluesbusters ~ PLEADING FOR MERCY (1961) - Joe Williams Production
4. Lloyd Clarke ~ JAPANESE GIRL (1962) - Stanley Motta Production
5. Owen Gray ~ NOBODY ELSE (1961) - Unspecified Producer
6. Derrick Harriott ~ I WON'T CRY (1963) - Derrick Harriott Production
7. Jimmy James ~ I DON'T WANT TO CRY (1962) - Linden Pottinger Production
8. Duke Reid (Group, All Stars or Band) ~ WHAT MAKES HONEY (1961) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
9. Jiving Juniors ~ MY HEART'S DESIRE (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
10. Laurel Aitken ~ LOW DOWN DIRTY GIRL (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
11. Keith & Enid ~ WORRIED OVER YOU (1960) - Simeon Smith Production
12. Rico Rodriguez ~ CONTINENTAL SHUFFLE (1960) - Lloyd 'The Matador' Daley Production
13. Owen Gray ~ MASH IT (PTS. 1 AND 2) (1960) - Unspecified Producer
14. Derrick Morgan ~ OH MY! (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
15. Theophilus Beckford ~ WALKING DOWN KING STREET (1961) - D.E.Dunkley Production
16. Chuck & Dobby ~ TIL THE END OF TIME (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
17. Mellow Larks ~ ALBUM OF MEMORY (1960) - Simeon Smith Production
18. Laurel Aitken ~ JUDGEMENT DAY (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
19. Lloyd Clarke ~ PARAPINTO BOOGIE (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
20. Jiving Juniors ~ LOLLIPOP GIRL (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
21. Roland Alphonso ~ BRIDGEVIEW SHUFFLE (1960) - Lloyd 'The Matador' Daley Production
22. Derrick & Patsy ~ OH MY LOVE (1962) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
23. Owen Gray ~ JENNY LEE (1960) - R&B Records Production
24. Bluesbusters ~ LOST MY BABY (1961) - R&B Records Production
25. Cosmo & Dennis ~ TONIGHT AND EVERMORE (1962) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
26. Kent Brown ~ HEY DIDDLE DIDDLE (1962) - D.E.Dunkley Production
27. Lloyd Clarke ~ NOW I KNOW THE REASON (1961) - Simeon Smith Production
28. Laurel Aitken ~ HONEY GIRL (1960) - R&B Records Production
29. Rico Rodriguez ~ MAGIC (1961) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
30. Jiving Juniors ~ I LOVE YOU (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
31. Bluesbusters ~ EARLY ONE MORNING (1960) - Limbo Records Production
32. Bubbles ~ WASP, THE (1960) - Fay Abrahams Production
33. Owen Gray ~ COME ON BABY (1962) - Chek Records Production
34. Bluesbusters ~ I NEED SOME LOVING (1961) - Limbo Records Production
35. Magic Notes ~ ROSABEL (1960) - Simeon Smith Production
36. Derrick & Patsy ~ LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL (1961) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
37. Keith & Enid ~ WHEN IT'S SPRING (1962) - Fay Abrahams Production
38. Owen Gray ~ MIDNIGHT TRACK (1962) - Charlie Moo Production
39. Laurel Aitken ~ YEA YEA BABY (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
40. Jimmy Cliff ~ DEAREST BEVERLEY (1962) - Leslie Kong / Beverley's Production
41. Mossman & Zeddse ~ POCKET MONEY (1961) - D.E.Dunkley Production
42. Lloyd Clarke ~ YOU'RE A CHEAT (1961) - Simeon Smith Production
43. Jiving Juniors ~ DEAREST DARLING (1960) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
44. Roy & Patsy ~ MY HAPPY HOME (1962) - Linden Pottinger Production
45. Shenley Duffus ~ OVER AND OVER (1960) - Simeon Smith Production
46. Rico Rodriguez ~ BLUES FROM THE HILLS (1961) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
47. Owen Gray ~ ROCKING IN MY FEET (1961) - Faith Records Production
48. Duke Reid (Group, All Stars or Band) ~ DUKE'S COOKIES (1961) - Arthur 'Duke' Reid Production
49. Bluesbusters ~ LITTLE VILMA (1960) - Limbo Records Production
50. Sir Dee's Group ~ GRANDFATHER'S CLOCK, THE (1961) - Theophilus Beckford & Delroy Dunkley Production

Not a bad start for me as i really love this collection and have collected quite a few of the Trojan Boxsets already. The majority of my wants list come from this and the Skinhead boxset so far. The more i listen....... the longer the list gets!

July 2, 2009

Best books are The Rough Guide To reggae, should be available everywhere, and one called Reggae & Carribean Musi9c by dave Thompson (www.backbeatbooks.com) not sure how much but I bought it for 4.99 in Walsall a few years ago - this is so good I've read the print off it, and it reviews hudreds of 45's from the 60's. The two books by Sanctuary are good too, Tighten Up and Young Gidted & Black, all about Trojan and the UK reggae scene, both still available.
Music wise, see if you can find any of my old podcasts (search on here) if I was able to advertise I could do you a few thousand tracks on disc but I can't so...
there's a few forums too, will try and get back to you with more info but looks like I have to go out for a bit!

Manged to find the Dave Thompson book, was only £4 secondhand but it's coming from the US, so i'll have a week or so to wait. Many thanks for that

July 2, 2009

CHECK THESE OUT
DUB VENDOR
DANCE CRASHER
ROCKA A SHOCKA
HONEST JOHNS RECORDS
PODAMATIC LOTS OF PODCASTS ALL ERAS
PAMA FORUM
HIT THE TOWN
HEARTBEAT RECORDS ... FOR STUDIO ONE AND TREASURE ISLE.. PLENTYOF SKA THERE

Cheers for that Toad :good:

I'll be having a good rumage as soon as i'm home from work

TOAD · July 2, 2009

I WILL UPDATE THE LIST LATER WITH RECOMENDATIONS

July 2, 2009

Ello Lovely Man Up Norf

Yep..... I know the track, tis a majestic compilation too!

you should lol i played it down the phone to you hahah

ZapatootheTiger · July 2, 2009

I recommend this on unreservedly, Teresa - if you can find it...

July 4, 2009

Yep - "Trojan Jamaican R&B Box Set" (Trojan TJETD042 / 2002) - super set of JA tunes from 1960 to 1962 - worth it for Owen Gray's scorching MIDNIGHT TRACK alone

IMHO

Dead rite bud Had forgotten how gud Midnight is thanks yooth set me on a nite of listening to trojan box sets BRILL

TOAD · July 4, 2009

A FEW ESSENTIAL IMO CDS TO START WITH

FOUNDATION SKA SKATALITES HEARTBEAT 48 SORCHERS !

IF YOU ONLY BUY ONE PRINCE BUSTER CD THE PROPHET LAGOON IS THE ONE TO GET

LEE PERRY CHICKEN SCRATCH DELUXE VERSION OR LP FROM HEARTBEAT

ANY OF THE KING EDWARDS CDS THINK THEY COME AS DOUBLE CDS AINT SURE AS IVE GOT THE LPS VERY RAW EARLY SKA.

TROJAN BATTLE FIELD CD AGAIN RAW AND VERY RNB

SKA BOGGIE CD AS ABOVE A SELECTION OF EARLY TUNES

ZapatootheTiger · July 5, 2009

Dead rite bud Had forgotten how gud Midnight is thanks yooth set me on a nite of listening to trojan box sets BRILL

IT'S MY DELIGHT, Chris...

ZapatootheTiger · July 5, 2009

A FEW ESSENTIAL IMO CDS TO START WITH

FOUNDATION SKA SKATALITES HEARTBEAT 48 SORCHERS !
IF YOU ONLY BUY ONE PRINCE BUSTER CD THE PROPHET LAGOON IS THE ONE TO GET
LEE PERRY CHICKEN SCRATCH DELUXE VERSION OR LP FROM HEARTBEAT
ANY OF THE KING EDWARDS CDS THINK THEY COME AS DOUBLE CDS AINT SURE AS IVE GOT THE LPS VERY RAW EARLY SKA.
TROJAN BATTLE FIELD CD AGAIN RAW AND VERY RNB
SKA BOGGIE CD AS ABOVE A SELECTION OF EARLY TUNES

Foundation Ska (CD HB185/186) - check

Chicken Scratch (116617839 2) - check

King of Ska (KECD01/02) - King Edwards Productions - check

King of Ska Vol. 2 (KECD03/04) - King Edwards Productions - check

I'd have to say that Buster's KING OF SKA (Jet Star / PBCD11 and mostly instrumental) is near-faultless.

I'd add "Top Ska Tunes" (Trojan / TJCCD165) - Gaz Mayall selections has some walloping rarities, just ignore the self-indulgent liner notes.

Has anyone mentioned "Duke Reid The Trojan - Nuclear Weapon" (Trojan / TJCCD090) - another not to be overlooked.

Track listings for all available if needs be - just ask...

:cool: :cool: :cool:

Pete S · July 5, 2009

I recommend this on unreservedly, Teresa - if you can find it...

I've never seen that before Zap, looks fantastic, can you do me one?

But hey don't let that reach the eyes and ears of the nazi moderator on the Pama forum, don't want to get you into any trouble. A music forum that doesn't allow music. Whatever next.

ZapatootheTiger · July 5, 2009

I'm sure I can squeeze something out, Pete :thumbup:

I picked this one up in Germany (in a shop called Saturn in Cologne in about 2000) - I've read that it's not an official release, though it looks kosher...

July 5, 2009

Has anyone mentioned "Duke Reid The Trojan - Nuclear Weapon" (Trojan / TJCCD090) - another not to be overlooked.

A couple of nice unknowns on there as well, thanks for reminding me :good:

I feel another night of trojan stuff comin on

ZapatootheTiger · July 5, 2009

July 7, 2009

I recommend this on unreservedly, Teresa - if you can find it...

Now then Tiger!!! Many thanks indeed and a humble apology for not replying earlier. I only get real t'internet pleasure on a tues and weds when i get a day off work, so my searching starts today. I'll start off on Soul Seek and see if i can find this highly recommended gem!!

July 7, 2009

Just scrawling out a list of all your recommendations. It's really appreciated, i can tell ya!!! :thumbup:

Many many Thanks!!

July 7, 2009

you should lol i played it down the phone to you hahah

I have to agree Chief.....You played me some belters down the phone!!!

Rather "Devilish" new avatar you have Mr H!!! Nice photo blog too

July 7, 2009

I have to agree Chief.....You played me some belters down the phone!!!
Rather "Devilish" new avatar you have Mr H!!! Nice photo blog too

Well thank you so much for saying so M'Dear :rolleyes:

September 17, 2009

great post and suggestions ... gave me a good few names to start with. cheers

ZapatootheTiger · October 22, 2009

I've never seen that before Zap, looks fantastic, can you do me one?
But hey don't let that reach the eyes and ears of the nazi moderator on the Pama forum, don't want to get you into any trouble. A music forum that doesn't allow music. Whatever next.

Did I sort this for you, Pete?

I thought I did, but now I'm not so sure...

Biggordy · December 30, 2009

Another good reggae forum is Chatty Mouth.

https://djgreedyg.proboards.com/

I started it about 4 years ago now and while it doesn't have the membership numbers of somewhere like SS, it's almost 900 now and there's a steady flow of traffic.

I don't run it anymore but might know a man who helps out

G

ZapatootheTiger · January 1, 2010

Another good reggae forum is Chatty Mouth.

https://djgreedyg.proboards.com/

I started it about 4 years ago now and while it doesn't have the membership numbers of somewhere like SS, it's almost 900 now and there's a steady flow of traffic.

I don't run it anymore but might know a man who helps out

G

I try Gordon.

Also, Trojan and (separately) Pama forums are useful sources information, knowledge and dubious wit (plug plug)

https://www.trojanrecords.co.uk/forum/index.php

https://s7.zetaboards.com/PAMA_FORUM/index/

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