Gene-r Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Love, like or hate it - "Goodbye Nothin' To Say" by The Javells & Nosmo King will always be around as a toe-tappin' tune! But does anyone know the story of how this got to be played? See, I've just picked up a demo of "Goodbye" by Nosmo King (pictured below), released July 1974. It's actually the B-side to "Teenage Love". I know that it made the UK Top 30 in November 1974, but did it actually get played out anywhere between this time, or was it just a mock-up reissue for the UK charts? So, apart from a clever play on words for this guy (No Smoking), does anyone have any info on its origins? Maybe even a value? Yours, Nowan King (no relation)
Davetay Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Love, like or hate it - "Goodbye Nothin' To Say" by The Javells & Nosmo King will always be around as a toe-tappin' tune! But does anyone know the story of how this got to be played? See, I've just picked up a demo of "Goodbye" by Nosmo King (pictured below), released July 1974. It's actually the B-side to "Teenage Love". I know that it made the UK Top 30 in November 1974, but did it actually get played out anywhere between this time, or was it just a mock-up reissue for the UK charts? So, apart from a clever play on words for this guy (No Smoking), does anyone have any info on its origins? Maybe even a value? Yours, Nowan King (no relation) It was a big big full fuller at Wigan in the summer of 74. On one of my live tapes (1st Ann) Russ plays it 3 times in one hour. It was covered up as The Javells at 1st, than reissued on Disco Demand as The Javells. 1 1
Tabs Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Some more info here. https://www.nme.com/artists/javells-and-nosmo-king Love, like or hate it - "Goodbye Nothin' To Say" by The Javells & Nosmo King will always be around as a toe-tappin' tune! But does anyone know the story of how this got to be played? See, I've just picked up a demo of "Goodbye" by Nosmo King (pictured below), released July 1974. It's actually the B-side to "Teenage Love". I know that it made the UK Top 30 in November 1974, but did it actually get played out anywhere between this time, or was it just a mock-up reissue for the UK charts? So, apart from a clever play on words for this guy (No Smoking), does anyone have any info on its origins? Maybe even a value? Yours, Nowan King (no relation)
Gene-r Posted June 17, 2009 Author Posted June 17, 2009 Thanks for the heads-up guys! Interesting to note that Nosmo (aka Stephen Jameson) was a member of The Truth - never knew that until now.
Mak Posted June 17, 2009 Posted June 17, 2009 Thanks for the heads-up guys! Interesting to note that Nosmo (aka Stephen Jameson) was a member of The Truth - never knew that until now. Did'nt Johnathan King have something to do with it ?
paup-ine Posted June 18, 2009 Posted June 18, 2009 All these triple post, Everyone must really love it Hope this does not come up 3 times ! P
Gene-r Posted June 18, 2009 Author Posted June 18, 2009 Did'nt Johnathan King have something to do with it ? Don't think he did - think it was Roger Greenway and Roger Cook.
Guest Posted June 18, 2009 Posted June 18, 2009 I think Ady C as a acitate with totaly different artist name on it !
Guest newone Posted June 18, 2009 Posted June 18, 2009 Did'nt Johnathan King have something to do with it ? i thought it was johnathon king under one of his many disgiuses
bri pinch Posted June 18, 2009 Posted June 18, 2009 i thought it was johnathon king under one of his many disgiuses NO, NO AND THRICE...........NO. BRI PINCH. BENTINCK, BACK ROOM, 19TH JUNE. 1
Guest Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) Jonathon King owned UK records that released Dean Parish,The Devonnes..and l just want to kick his lights out!! The name " Nosmo King " was used by singer / songwriter Steve Jameson in respect of the release for " Goodbye " / " Teenage Love " ( UK PYE 7N 45383 ). The record was repromoted following its' success on the NS , as " Goodbye , Nothing To Say " - The Javells featuring Nosmo King ....... SJ " borrowed " the name from H. Vernon Watson ( 1886 - 1952 ), a popular English variety artist , who touring the music halls before World War I , but he remained relatively obscure until the 1920s , when he shot to fame as Nosmo King . Jonathan King had no connection with the record whatsoever . Steve Jameson is now is a successful comedian , touring under the name of his alter - ego , Sol Bernstein Mr Jameson is pictured below ( as SB ) , along with a photograph of the initial release , for your consideration . Malc Burton Edited June 19, 2009 by Malc Burton
Mal C Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) Hi Gene, The Guy from Pye records who put this over to Richard at the Casino chatted about this on Richard's radio show some years ago, I have it on tape if you want it, Basically a Wigan Anniversary show. Anyhow the guy at Pye was fooled into thinking it was a new Northern sound by his co workers at the label, when in fact it was a b side of a Pye Pop single, so he put it over to Wigan, it fooled them, went massive and Nosmo actually went to a nigher to hear it played, he was said to be made up!!! as to who Nosmo actually was, they never mention that, only that he went to the wigan... There is allot more but its on the tape.. See you next week.. Mal Edited June 19, 2009 by Mal.C. 1
Guest Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) Hi Gene, The Guy from Pye records who put this over to Richard at the Casino chatted about this on Richard's radio show some years ago, I have it on tape if you want it, Basically a Wigan Anniversary show. Anyhow the guy at Pye was fooled into thinking it was a new Northern sound by his co workers at the label, when in fact it was a b side of a Pye Pop single, so he put it over to Wigan, it fooled them, went massive and Nosmo actually went to a nigher to hear it played, he was said to be made up!!! as to who Nosmo actually was, they never mention that, only that he went to the wigan... There is allot more but its on the tape.. See you next week.. Mal As I stated in my post above , rhe name " Nosmo King " was used by singer / songwriter Steve Jameson in respect of the release for " Goodbye " / " Teenage Love " ( UK PYE 7N 45383 ) in 1974 ....... Malc Burton Edited June 19, 2009 by Malc Burton
Mal C Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 As I stated in my post above , rhe name " Nosmo King " was used by singer / songwriter Steve Jameson in respect of the release for " Goodbye " / " Teenage Love " ( UK PYE 7N 45383 ) in 1974 ....... Malc Burton there you go, the true identity Nosmo king... I'll find the tape and get the info for you all, Kev Roberts and Richard interviewed this guy about Pye, and his involvement... good stuff. mal
Guest zamnocob Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Just recently joined and followed up on Nosmo King. Here is the man himself explaining the song...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XALqQM-Xug&list=WL&index=19
Jim G Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 I remember seeing the acetate on the decks at the Casino. I will never know why Pye didn't release it as an A side, it might have been a hit even without the NS connection!
Smartzie Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 I'm sure he sang it at the 1st anniversary niter '74.
Mal C Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 You can't but love that can you Never guessed Maxine Nightingale was a rip off of this, but now I hear it... think 'Right Back'might have charted in the States as well, gets featured in a fair few Hollywood films...
Guest Posted September 28, 2023 Posted September 28, 2023 Nosmo KIng was indeed a stage name of H.Vernon Watson whose act between the Wars involved blacking up and inpersonating black people but I very much doubt he was the reason the name was chosen by Sol Bernstein. More likely it was a play on theatre signage stating No Smoking.
Eddie Hubbard Posted September 28, 2023 Posted September 28, 2023 On 19/06/2009 at 17:41, Mal C said: Hi Gene, The Guy from Pye records who put this over to Richard at the Casino chatted about this on Richard's radio show some years ago, I have it on tape if you want it, Basically a Wigan Anniversary show. Anyhow the guy at Pye was fooled into thinking it was a new Northern sound by his co workers at the label, when in fact it was a b side of a Pye Pop single, so he put it over to Wigan, it fooled them, went massive and Nosmo actually went to a nigher to hear it played, he was said to be made up!!! as to who Nosmo actually was, they never mention that, only that he went to the wigan... There is allot more but its on the tape.. See you next week.. Mal Dave McAleer was the Pye promotion guy responsible for The Javells and Pye Disco Demand label
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