Keithw Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 have 2 copies of Diane Jenkins tow away zone one red one purple which was first and are they both originals ?
Guest Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 have 2 copies of Diane Jenkins tow away zone one red one purple which was first and are they both originals ? The Red and Silver label is first. Purple was later.
Keithw Posted June 16, 2009 Author Posted June 16, 2009 thanks--can sell purple one now anybody --20-00
grant Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 sure mines is black, vinyl weighs a tonne! bought this blind back when i think it was released , i thought 'what a bag-of-shite' when i first played it, and u know what listening to it again it's still a bag of shite
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 The Red and Silver label is first. Purple was later. ...are you absolutely sure about this? I have what I think is a complete run of the Creative Funk label, all of which I bought as new or nearly new releases, and they're all purple with silver print. Why would just that one be originally released as red and silver rather than in the regular 'colour scheme'?
Rich B Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 ...are you absolutely sure about this? I have what I think is a complete run of the Creative Funk label, all of which I bought as new or nearly new releases, and they're all purple with silver print. Why would just that one be originally released as red and silver rather than in the regular 'colour scheme'? I have to agree, I'm sure the Red/Silver were company reissues. I think the fact that all of the releases that aren't (weren't) in demand are Purple/Silver as well is telling. As well as "I need you" by Diane Jenkins. best, RB
Guest Paul Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) Hello Millbrand have obtained exclusive rights to the Creative Funk catalogue, including a few songs previously published by Kassner, for the world excluding US and Canada. Deek DeBerry passed away recently but we're putting the history together with the help of other family members. I have all the Creative Funk and Adelia 45s apart from 'Recycle'. If anyone can provide a dub and scan I'd be very grateful. Best regards, Paul Mooney Edited June 19, 2009 by Paul
Ric-tic Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 Hello Millbrand have obtained exclusive rights to the Creative Funk catalogue, including a few songs previously published by Kassner, for the world excluding US and Canada. Deek DeBerry passed away recently but we're putting the history together with the help of other family members. I have all the Creative Funk and Adelia 45s apart from 'Recycle'. If anyone can provide a dub and scan I'd be very grateful. Best regards, Paul Mooney will this be for a c.d release?, cant wait if it is i may be able to help you with stuff for the notes p.m me
Guest Paul Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 will this be for a c.d release?, cant wait if it is i may be able to help you with stuff for the notes p.m me We own publishing rights and we also have master licenses so we might issue an album on Selecta/Shotgun or lease it to another label. Right now we're trying to verify any unissued tracks other than 'Truth And Love' by True Pages of Life. I know there were other things but they've yet to be found. Any info will be much appreciated. Paul
Guest Paul Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 Many thanks for the scan. I also need confirmation of writer credits for 'Gee Baby, What About You'. Deek's brother Gary thinks it's an old doo-wop song or an adaptation ...something that came via James Shepard or Clarence Bassett. Clarence is also deceased. It's nice to see so many people hold Diane Jenkins in such high regard. 'Ready Made Family' got heavy airplay in New York in 1972. Does anyone know if Bell promo man Oscar Fields is still around? Paul
Ric-tic Posted June 20, 2009 Posted June 20, 2009 Many thanks for the scan. I also need confirmation of writer credits for 'Gee Baby, What About You'. Deek's brother Gary thinks it's an old doo-wop song or an adaptation ...something that came via James Shepard or Clarence Bassett. Clarence is also deceased. Paul paul garys right its james sheppard!
Guest Paul Posted June 20, 2009 Posted June 20, 2009 paul garys right its james sheppard! Thanks again, Graham. Mike Lofthouse has also been very helpful. Between us we have all the 45s apart from 'Recycle'. I have the Wisdom 45 on US Adelia and UK Crystal but I didn't realise it also came out on Creative Funk. By the way, does anyone have the version of 'I Need You' with a spoken intro? Does it actually exist??? Paul
Dave Fleming Posted June 20, 2009 Posted June 20, 2009 Thanks again, Graham. Mike Lofthouse has also been very helpful. Between us we have all the 45s apart from 'Recycle'. I have the Wisdom 45 on US Adelia and UK Crystal but I didn't realise it also came out on Creative Funk. By the way, does anyone have the version of 'I Need You' with a spoken intro? Does it actually exist??? Paul Yes Paul "I Need You" spoken intro does exist. Dave f.........
Dave Fleming Posted June 20, 2009 Posted June 20, 2009 We own publishing rights and we also have master licenses so we might issue an album on Selecta/Shotgun or lease it to another label. Right now we're trying to verify any unissued tracks other than 'Truth And Love' by True Pages of Life. I know there were other things but they've yet to be found. Any info will be much appreciated. Paul A Friend of mine has the Orig acctate of "True Pages of Life",Great track. Dave f..........
Guest mel brat Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 By the way, does anyone have the version of 'I Need You' with a spoken intro? Does it actually exist??? Paul I have a copy with spoken intro. (I think it's cool, but I wasn't aware that it was particularly rare) As I recall, the Creative Funk "red(dish)" labels were widely regarded as bootlegs at the time.
KevH Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 The spoken intro one,if i'm not mistaken,is the same issue number as the ordinary one.?.A studio acetete of "I need you" went thru ebay some time back.Who got it?
Guest Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 I have a copy with spoken intro. (I think it's cool, but I wasn't aware that it was particularly rare) As I recall, the Creative Funk "red(dish)" labels were widely regarded as bootlegs at the time. I bought a Maroon and Silver coloured Tow A Way Zone from Craig Moerer and he assusured me it was the original. It looks great quality vinyl and label, it does not look like a boot/pressing. I had a Purple/White label boot of "I Need You" on Creative Funk and that looked every bit like a boot/pressing.
Keithw Posted June 21, 2009 Author Posted June 21, 2009 ok so are we now saying purple/silver 1st label red/silver 2nd better sell the red one then-20-00 know purple and white was the boot
Guest Paul Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 Yes Paul "I Need You" spoken intro does exist. Dave f......... Thanks Dave, I could use a dub if you could oblige. Is the label copy exactly as the same as issues without the spoken intro? Paul
Guest Paul Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 I have a copy with spoken intro. (I think it's cool, but I wasn't aware that it was particularly rare) As I recall, the Creative Funk "red(dish)" labels were widely regarded as bootlegs at the time. Hello Mel, Not sure if it's rare, it's just that I've never had a copy with the spoken intro. I'd heard about it but I don't recall hearing it. Paul
Guest Paul Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 A Friend of mine has the Orig acctate of "True Pages of Life",Great track. Dave f.......... Hello again Dave, I wonder if it's the same copy that Ian Levine once sold? I have a master for the A side but Ian told me there was an intrsumental version on the flip of his acetate. If there is I'd appreciate a dub. Best regards, Paul
Guest franky m Posted June 22, 2009 Posted June 22, 2009 Lots of us releases have different colour / label variations , even stuff that did,nt sell well , doesnt mean there re-issues tho?
Glynthornhill Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 Paul all Dianes 45s were spot on , other creative funk 45s and 12s ( late 80s ) in my collection somewhere - all thats missing is that acetate Levine spun - scan re Gee Baby enc - good luck with the venture !!if assistance needed keep asking most SS forum have a healthy knowledge !
Glynthornhill Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 PAUL - got the Recycle 45 if you need for scan ?
Guest Paul Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 PAUL - got the Recycle 45 if you need for scan ? Hello Glyn Yes please I could use a high-resolution scan of both sides and dubs too. Some Creative Funk master tapes have just arrived and it looks like they contain some unknown and unissued stuff. In a few days I'll know which tapes are okay and if there's anything good that we haven't heard before. Let's hope we don't have any major problems with oxide shedding etc. Best regards, Paul info@millbrand.com
dthedrug Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) HI MATE I KNOW THIS THREAD HAS MOVED ON A BIT SINCE I LOOKED AT IT 40 MINUTES AGO "DIANE JENKINS - TOW AWAY ZONE" I HAVE HAD MY COPY AS A PRE-RELEASE FROM PRESADENT RECORDS IN 75, I HAVE THE RELEASE SHEET SOMWHERE? WHEN I FIND IT IWILL ADD IT TO THE POSTING, OR! HAVE I MISSED THE PIONT? IF SO HERES A COPY OF DIANE JENKINS UK DEMO SKELINGTON "A" RELEASE DAVE KIL RIGHT GOT IT NOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE US COPY? DUNT NO DONT CARE AS I COLLECT ENGLISH AND MY COPY IS RARER THAN YOURS Edited July 2, 2009 by dthedrug
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I bought a Maroon and Silver coloured Tow A Way Zone from Craig Moerer and he assusured me it was the original. It looks great quality vinyl and label, it does not look like a boot/pressing. I bought "Tow-A-Way Zone" when it came out, chiefly for the ballad side and some time before it went big. That copy, which I still have, is purple/silver. I wouldn't normally second guess Craig, but I think he's wrong. There's no reason at all why the first issue of this 45 should be maroon when, as previously stated, all other CF 45s were purple. And the purple ones came through first, too. As Mel says, the maroon ones only pitched up after there was demand for the track. I guess you had to be there....
Keithw Posted July 2, 2009 Author Posted July 2, 2009 wow thing i started a good thread here now.................
Val (Chunky) Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 do you think the Maroon copies with silver writing could be demo's ?
Guest Paul Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 HI MATE I KNOW THIS THREAD HAS MOVED ON A BIT SINCE I LOOKED AT IT 40 MINUTES AGO "DIANE JENKINS - TOW AWAY ZONE" I HAVE HAD MY COPY AS A PRE-RELEASE FROM PRESADENT RECORDS IN 75, I HAVE THE RELEASE SHEET SOMWHERE? WHEN I FIND IT IWILL ADD IT TO THE POSTING, OR! HAVE I MISSED THE PIONT? IF SO HERES A COPY OF DIANE JENKINS UK DEMO SKELINGTON "A" RELEASE DAVE KIL RIGHT GOT IT NOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE US COPY? DUNT NO DONT CARE AS I COLLECT ENGLISH AND MY COPY IS RARER THAN YOURS Hello I have the same Crystal promo, nice quality, as is the Wisdom 45 on Crystal. David Kassner sent me one back in 1975. I'll ask him if he can recall how many it sold. Not very many I think. Best regards, Paul
Guest Paul Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 I bought "Tow-A-Way Zone" when it came out, chiefly for the ballad side and some time before it went big. That copy, which I still have, is purple/silver. I wouldn't normally second guess Craig, but I think he's wrong. There's no reason at all why the first issue of this 45 should be maroon when, as previously stated, all other CF 45s were purple. And the purple ones came through first, too. As Mel says, the maroon ones only pitched up after there was demand for the track. I guess you had to be there.... Hello Tony, It was probably a quick repress but, who knows, it may have been a bootleg. Deek DeBerry was concerned about bootlegs at the time. he must have had a reason. Best wishes, Paul P.S. I have some masters with unissued tracks now but, so far, all are instrumentals. It would be nice to find an unheard Diane Jenkins track.
Guest mel brat Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) I have the same Crystal promo, nice quality, as is the Wisdom 45 on Crystal. David Kassner sent me one back in 1975. I'll ask him if he can recall how many it sold. Not very many I think. Best regards, Paul Edited July 4, 2009 by mel brat
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