Rbman Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 What are your top ten RnB records that have crossed over to be Northern Soul floor fillers? I guess mine are: I Can't Please You - Jimmy Robins I Can't Get Enough - Johnny Sayles Sweeter Than The Day Before - The Valentinos What Good Am I - Mickey Champion Sippin' Sorrow - Pearl Woods My Baby Likes To Boogaloo - Don Gardner If You Don't Come - Patience Valentine The Champion - Willie Mitchell It's Your Voodoo Working - Charles Sheffield I'm A Big Man - Big Daddy Rogers How much change would I get from £1000 for that little lot?
Guest ShaneH Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Catch that teardrop - 5 Royales (well this one probably owes its style to doo-wop maybe). Huge record everywhere and loved by all those who dont like RnB . First played by Hoss about ten years ago apparently. I wouldnt have put the Valentinos in there to be honest but what do I know? Shane
Guest in town Mikey Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 I was told Lonnie Lester - You can go is RnB. To me its just Northern Soul, par excellance. Same with Larry Davies - I've been hurt Is Diamond Joe - How to pick a winner RnB?? If so I love it long time Jonny
Reg Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 If You Don't Come - Patience Valentine Aw please tell me you don't really like this-it makes my skin crawl. The vocal is the scariest thing ever..I can make my 7 year old daughter do ANYTHING if I threaten her with a few bars of this record
Rbman Posted June 16, 2005 Author Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) I wouldnt have put the Valentinos in there to be honest but what do I know? Shane link You wouldn't put it in because you don't feel it is RnB or it's not a top ten? Edited June 16, 2005 by Rbman
Guest ShaneH Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 If You Don't Come - Patience Valentine Aw please tell me you don't really like this-it makes my skin crawl. The vocal is the scariest thing ever..I can make my 7 year old daughter do ANYTHING if I threaten her with a few bars of this record link great record Reg. Brilliant lyrics too. I like the bit where she threatens to leave her man for another man who is 6ft tall Shane
Rbman Posted June 16, 2005 Author Posted June 16, 2005 If You Don't Come - Patience Valentine Aw please tell me you don't really like this-it makes my skin crawl. The vocal is the scariest thing ever..I can make my 7 year old daughter do ANYTHING if I threaten her with a few bars of this record link I guess you don't want to sell me your copy then as it's such a powerful weapon
Guest ShaneH Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 You wouldn't but it in because you don't feel it is RnB or it's not a top ten? link I don't consider it to be RnB to be honest. I consider it to be solid group Northern. IMO of course. good thread though mate. Shane
Reg Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 I guess you don't want to sell me your copy then as it's such a powerful weapon link It isn't mine- but if I can ever sneak it out of the house it's yours for a tenner I can always play her the cd...
Guest ShaneH Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 seven day fool - Etta James Second class lover - Jean Dushon These have had big room plays I am sure Shane
Pete S Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 What are your top ten RnB records that have crossed over to be Northern Soul floor fillers? I guess mine are: I Can't Please You - Jimmy Robins I Can't Get Enough - Johnny Sayles Sweeter Than The Day Before - The Valentinos What Good Am I - Mickey Champion Sippin' Sorrow - Pearl Woods My Baby Likes To Boogaloo - Don Gardner If You Don't Come - Patience Valentine The Champion - Willie Mitchell It's Your Voodoo Working - Charles Sheffield I'm A Big Man - Big Daddy Rogers How much change would I get from £1000 for that little lot? link I don't get this. The following records were classed as Northern before anyone had associated the term R & B with this scene: I Can't Please You - Jimmy Robins I Can't Get Enough - Johnny Sayles Sweeter Than The Day Before - The Valentinos What Good Am I - Mickey Champion The Champion - Willie Mitchell The Valentinos is about as out-and-out northern as you can get. The Champion, r & b? Load of bollocks...
Guest Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 I was pretty much thinking the same Pete, generaly speaking we could say that all the records we listen to is r&b but didnt we adopt these records on our scene many years ago and label them northern soul ?
Reg Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 I'm shakin-Little Willie John Wade in the Water-Little Sonny Love aint nothin-Johnny Nash baby don't you weep-Wilson Pickett/Fred Bridges Let him be your boy-Wilson Pickett Raining Teardrops_The Rockmasters...or maybe that's a bit doo wop??
Guest ShaneH Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) I'm shakin-Little Willie John Wade in the Water-Little Sonny Love aint nothin-Johnny Nash baby don't you weep-Wilson Pickett/Fred Bridges Let him be your boy-Wilson Pickett Raining Teardrops_The Rockmasters...or maybe that's a bit doo wop?? link wilson pickett.....one of the worst records to be played out imo. even worse than sugar dumpling and loving by the pound which are really awful imo. Shane Edited June 16, 2005 by ShaneH
Simsy Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Let him be your boy-Wilson Pickett link Let ME be your boy. Sorry
MarkWhiteley Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Anna Bell Ceasar - Little Annie Sherri Taylor - He's the one.. + loads more
Dave Abbott Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 How much change would I get from £1000 for that little lot? link None Martin, afraid to say they'd cost you more than that.
Reg Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Let ME be your boy. Sorry link Yes you are correct-one of my smaller errors
Pete S Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 wilson pickett.....one of the worst records to be played out imo. even worse than sugar dumpling and loving by the pound which are really awful imo. Shane link Hurrah! I've been saying this for years and years and no one has ever agreed with me!!!
Guest remus Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 I'm shakin-Little Willie John Wade in the Water-Little Sonny Love aint nothin-Johnny Nash baby don't you weep-Wilson Pickett/Fred Bridges Let him be your boy-Wilson Pickett Raining Teardrops_The Rockmasters...or maybe that's a bit doo wop?? link Rockmasters , do me a favour!,....you seem a bit confused! It's SOUL.
Reg Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Rockmasters , do me a favour!,....you seem a bit confused! It's SOUL. link If you say so.......
Guest ShaneH Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 When an out and out RnB tune is good it is then called.....northern Shane
Jerry Hipkiss Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Only recently heard this and can't get it out of my (limited) brain: Dorothy Williams - Watchdog Hippo. P.S. Pete - another who agrees with you on Wilson Pickett, never got the appeal of that one at all!
Mark Bicknell Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Firstly as with all styles of music on this scene what may float one man's boat will often sink another and the R'n'B style is no different, you have to define R'n'B as some of the stuff played has no connection with the style at all, as i've said before a good bench mark record to possibly define the style already mentioned is 'Jimmy Robbins'. Others that spring to mind are:- Hayes Cotton, Ray Agee, Dusty Wilson, Cookie Jackson, Little John, Marion James and numerous others, all in all these records deserve to be entered into the mix as long as the quality is there, however i think it all gets a little cloudy when the likes of Dean Barlow, Barbara Redd and Hopalong Cassidy and Co are given turntable action.....still as i say whatever floats your boat! Regards - Mark Bicknell.
Jerry Hipkiss Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Firstly as with all styles of music on this scene what may float one man's boat will often sink another and the R'n'B style is no different, you have to define R'n'B as some of the stuff played has no connection with the style at all, as i've said before a good bench mark record to possibly define the style already mentioned is 'Jimmy Robbins'. link True enough Mark, one mans meat and all that...must admit that my benchmark is probably Big Daddy Rogers (oops, another Big daddy ), that kind of crunching beat is ideal Northern IMHO. Some of the almost doo-wop/rock 'n roll stuff is just too early for me, but I'm trying not to write it all off like some people as there'll always be something that grabs you and says "I'm the exception to the rule..." Hippo.
Rbman Posted June 16, 2005 Author Posted June 16, 2005 None Martin, afraid to say they'd cost you more than that. link Having just totalled them up I think I would be lucky to get change from £1500
Bitchdj Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 rockmasters floats my boat..but lets face it its doo wop some of the tunes mentioned here have no resemblence to anything soulful.or R& B fer that matter stop hiding behind the genre of soul and call it what it is fer gawds sake ITS ROCK AND ROLL
Guest remus Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 rockmasters floats my boat..but lets face it its doo wop some of the tunes mentioned here have no resemblence to anything soulful.or R& B fer that matter stop hiding behind the genre of soul and call it what it is fer gawds sake ITS ROCK AND ROLL link Raining teardrops is Soul, forget the sleeve notes!
Guest Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) Raining teardrops is Soul, forget the sleeve notes! Â link Doo wop, doo wop ,doo wop..... Edited June 16, 2005 by Otis
MarkWhiteley Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Raining teardrops is Soul, forget the sleeve notes! link Indeed it is John, and some soul record it is AWESOOOOOME!!
Supercorsa Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 One record I can't see the appeal of is... Barbara Dane - I'm On My Way
Guest HiTtHeBoNgO Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 pete and shane im shocked , i love that wilson picket track i do think its more of a mod track though good as a switch record to ska or visa versa ..... my fave r&b at the moment doubt if any would cross over though roscoe sheton is it to late babe excello sherri taylor lover motown rose hargrove why am i losing you afco johnnie jackson what you gonna do j-mer chuck wright palm of your hand ember ray scott feeling no pain decca errol dixon i dont want direct louis jordan what i say tangerine fabulous playboys honky tonk woman apollo sugar and sweet you dont have to cry s.s.j
Guest Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 I remember a Bobby Freeman record called the swim, i class this as northern soul, as it was played on the scene and adopted, could this also be rock & roll ? I think he used to have something to do with that scene, just curious
Rbman Posted June 16, 2005 Author Posted June 16, 2005 pete and shane im shocked , i love that wilson picket track i do think its more of a mod track though good as a switch record to ska or visa versa ..... my fave r&b at the moment doubt if any would cross over though roscoe sheton is it to late babe excello sherri taylor lover motown rose hargrove why am i losing you afco johnnie jackson what you gonna do j-mer chuck wright palm of your hand ember ray scott feeling no pain decca errol dixon i dont want direct louis jordan what i say tangerine fabulous playboys honky tonk woman apollo sugar and sweet you dont have to cry s.s.j link Nice list Andy, but as you say not much hope of filling a northern night dance floor Is that a sample of what will be played at Blocked on Saturday night?
Guest ShaneH Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 I thought the idea of this thread was to list the big rnb tunes that crossed over to the northern dancefloor. It has become a thread about current rnb faves which wasnt the idea. :angry: I like the idea of this thread and maybe it should be regimented in a similar style to the top ten northern guru's ? Come on Rbman tell them the score Shane
Guest HiTtHeBoNgO Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Nice list Andy, but as you say not much hope of filling a northern night dance floor Is that a sample of what will be played at Blocked on Saturday night? link hello mate there in my play box yes, though not a plug for blocked are you coming along then ? free entry from 9 - 10 club soul , boogaloo , r&b and ska sherlock holmes station road westcliff nearest station westcliff on sea phil raines guesting now thats a plug
Rbman Posted June 16, 2005 Author Posted June 16, 2005 I thought the idea of this thread was to list the big rnb tunes that crossed over to the northern dancefloor. It has become a thread about current rnb faves which wasnt the idea. :angry: I like the idea of this thread and maybe it should be regimented in a similar style to the top ten northern guru's ? Come on Rbman tell them the score Shane link Good point Shane...so easy to go off thread Well starting with my list how many would be in yours? I'm happy to remove "Sweeter...." but my ears and feet tell me that The Champion is RnB and not "Bollocks"
Guest Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) Question,what is R&B crossover or whatever you call it,i though it is all R&B,it dont make any sence,anything with any gritt!,in it is now R&B,I would prefere it be popcorn,and if anybody says im playing popcorn i would tell em`to f*****f no probblem,ie:soul stuff aint gonna get in the R&B charts again dont think so!,R&B is a mixture of music styles like soul,doo wapp,R&R,all black/race music Edited June 16, 2005 by kenneth aitchison
Pete S Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Question,what is R&B crossover or whatever you call it,i though it is all R&B,it dont make any sence,anything with any gritt!in it is now R&B,I would prefere it be popcorn,and if anybody says im playing popcorn i would tell em`to f*****f no probblem,ie:soul stuff aint gonna get in the R&B charts again dont think so!,R&B is a mixture of music styles like soul,doo wapp,R&R,all black/race music link Have you got a f*ckin space bar on your keyboard???
Pete S Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Good point Shane...so easy to go off thread Well starting with my list how many would be in yours? I'm happy to remove "Sweeter...." but my ears and feet tell me that The Champion is RnB and not "Bollocks" link I didn't say The Champion was bollocks, I said your assumption that it could be classed as R&B is bollocks, and it is!
Guest ShaneH Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Have you got a f*ckin space bar on your keyboard??? link ken has always been 'spaced' out Try and be fair on him. His cat does all the typing for him whilst ken reads the TV Times. Shane
Pete S Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 ken has always been 'spaced' out the TV Times. Shane link Is that still going??
Guest ShaneH Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Is that still going?? link no it finished years ago but ken still picks them up at car boots Shane
Guest Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 ken has always been 'spaced' out Try and be fair on him. His cat does all the typing for him whilst ken reads the TV Times. Shane link
Rbman Posted June 16, 2005 Author Posted June 16, 2005 I didn't say The Champion was bollocks, I said your assumption that it could be classed as R&B is bollocks, and it is! link ..and I didn't say that The Champion was bollocks either.......and it is RnB so there!
Guest remus Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Have you got a f*ckin space bar on your keyboard??? link I didn't have the heart to ask him!
Guest remus Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 ..and I didn't say that The Champion was bollocks either.......and it is RnB so there! link isn't
Guest Stuart T Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 pete and shane im shocked , i love that wilson picket track i do think its more of a mod track though good as a switch record to ska or visa versa ..... my fave r&b at the moment doubt if any would cross over though roscoe sheton is it to late babe excello sherri taylor lover motown rose hargrove why am i losing you afco johnnie jackson what you gonna do j-mer chuck wright palm of your hand ember ray scott feeling no pain decca errol dixon i dont want direct louis jordan what i say tangerine fabulous playboys honky tonk woman apollo sugar and sweet you dont have to cry s.s.j link Oh no, that Wilson Pickett track is dire and shouldn't be played in mod clubs either. Glad to see someone listing that Ray Scott, my favourite of his, even better than Love Piled On Top Of Love, but not as good as Gladys Tyler, which is both RnB and soul, as is Mickie Champion. So there!
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