jocko Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Here's a rather nice Canadian copy of Bill Brandon...the flipside is awesome Northern (same as the Tower flip). Gotta be rare?! Oi could people stop talking this up till I get my £30 copy, still waiting........ definitley not my attempt mate as there are already some items in the list that I own myself. Wouldn`t make any sense to talk down their values, would it ? I believe this stated fact is proof enough for the honesty in my attempt ? Also I tried to make it clear from the start that I am not on about values or prices in general...only and just interested in a list of records that used to be thought of being ultra rare in a sense of nearly "impossible to get" whereas these days you could buy them comparatively easy in say a years time period off ebay for example. If you have the needed funds of course Marc Marc, I actually meant everyone but you mate, including myself!! Its great fun watching you bat them all down, you show typical German honesty, while we are all happy to lie through our teeth to get the records cheaper. not included in this list Just picking up on Phil's comment, who coincidentally has just sold one I believe but okay I will stretch to £300, someone better take it down, sure I heard someone has a box of them under their bed somewhere!! Curtis Anderson was actually a give away record via Mick Charlton (circa 1988) . Thanks Mick Yes and I gave one away, this was never really rare was it Simon? How about some of your one or two offs that you keep very quiet about! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Yes and I gave one away, this was never really rare was it Simon? How about some of your one or two offs that you keep very quiet about! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) so except for Simon who recieved every 45 he did not buy off Soul Bowl @ 3 UKP in the seventies as a give away in the eighties would anybody else say it doesn`t belong into this list ? Now now Marc , just stating facts . Im sure most 80's Modern soulies were glad that most of the records were easy to aquire and 99 % of NS Jocks ignored em We used to use Timless legend sevens as frisbees Edited June 10, 2009 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) We used to use Timless legend sevens as frisbees Yeah I know, saw a picture. And you used to catch them with empty Paradise LP covers...or Ike Noble covers when the first 200 Paradise covers were rocked. from left to right: Simon, the record dealer of his trust at that time and Jocko on the far right (for a change LOL)..always a tad in front and leading Edited June 10, 2009 by Marc Forrest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I've played it out, Dylan. Much prefer the flipside though, and although a handful have gone through in the past 18 months I think it continues to be quite a difficult number. Will always be very desirable, for those in the know! Sean I paid £100 about 3 years ago for a mint one off ebay , Rainbow Road would def. be in my top 5 of all time .Best,Eddie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) here´s an update Little Tommy SOS Jackey Beavers "I Need My Baby" Clara Hardy on Tuna Dwight Franklin Foxie Lila Bill Brandon on Tower Al Williams on Palmer Four Tracks on Mandingo Jimmy Delphs "Dancing A Hole In The World" Demo Sage on Head Gene Toones Simco Demo Joe Jama Optimum Montclairs Hey You Jackie Day Naughty Boy Carmelita on Carmen Percy Stone on Ram Cashmeres HEM Cautions No Other Way Troy Dodds Try My Love Royal Esquires (Lil`Major Williams on Palladium) Williams III Sam Williams Tower Arthur Freeman Jumbo and Fame Melvin Davis Ke Ke Lawanda Williams Ke Ke Brooks Bros New Yorkers Jock Mitchell Otis Lee Mary Saxton Jesse Johnson September Jones Jesse Davis - Era Paris Ivorys Celebrities Johnny Mae Mathews "I Have No Choice" Tommy & The Derbys Frederick Hymes New World We`re Gonna Make It Georgous George excluded again because of common agreement, Vondells as well (only three on popsike for example). Guitar Ray on Shagg ? Edited June 10, 2009 by Marc Forrest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 done. What about Curtis Anderson "The Hardest Part" and New World "We Gonna Make It" ? all the curtis andersons also came from one guy in baltimore right? i think the new world is a good example as it is a major label thing that was buried in a bunch of places and then has come out from different sources that had it lying around. also, what about the vanguards good times bad times, that seems to come up from different sources also. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) all the curtis andersons also came from one guy in baltimore right? i think the new world is a good example as it is a major label thing that was buried in a bunch of places and then has come out from different sources that had it lying around. also, what about the vanguards good times bad times, that seems to come up from different sources also. Hi Bob, how many did he actually sell (Curtis Anderson) ? I seem to remember the seller coming back on ebay after he had shifted the first bunch saying "I found another bunch but these will definitely be my last copies" ? Yes, New World indeed seems to be a good example. But Vanguards "Good/Bad"...not that many again (on ebay three in six years) or do you mean "Gotta have Love" ? Marc Edited June 10, 2009 by Marc Forrest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Curtis Anderson was actually a give away record via Mick Charlton (circa 1988) . Thanks Mick It was actually a 'give away' because he thought he could get some more not because there were lots of them - he never did!! - does not have a copy himself Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 Kev Oh does Bobby Kline "Say something nice" fit the criteria cos I remember a time when there was a few kicking about, or was it the same copies being sold and resold I would have tended to agree with you Kev but again I was corrected and told that this was never ever really rare, just tucked away until the big re-activating hype began about ten years ago. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Ive only been 3 LMW on Palladium on the bay.thats not lots is it but Williams III copy yes a few in poor nick gasher I must be missing all these copies.....I reckon this is still a rare piece, isn't it? Is the Palladium label kosher? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 It was actually a 'give away' because he thought he could get some more not because there were lots of them - he never did!! - does not have a copy himself Mike Hello Mike and thanks for clarifying that..so we can include it in our small list you say ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon M Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) It was actually a 'give away' because he thought he could get some more not because there were lots of them - he never did!! - does not have a copy himself Mike yeah thats right . It went HUGE at the Upnorth Promotions weekender 1988 , as he gave it to virtually every DJ there . He could of sold 300 within an hour He was expecting a few boxes I sure . Edited June 12, 2009 by Simon M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Guitar Ray on Shagg was never a rarity in the first place: quantity at Soul Bowl > into collections worldwide > drawn out by ebay perhaps. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Abbott Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 oxford nights was quite hard when i got it, now i think they're giving 'em away Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 oxford nights was quite hard when i got it, now i think they're giving 'em away I'd say The Oxford Nights was a textbook example Dave. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 yep its kosher and a better quality vinyl recording..but the 3 copies have beem over 3 years Been told different stories..a mate was told from a band memeber it was first released on Palladium and LMW repressed the Williams III copies to make some dosh on the side? who knows..probably a crock. But I had both kept palladium one. gasher I must be missing all these copies.....I reckon this is still a rare piece, isn't it? Is the Palladium label kosher? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 yeah but remember its been bootlegged. the boots have been sold on the bay and passed off as originals..two different labels. althought Identical but not if you know what I mean..paper is wrong on the boot and the colour of the writing/texrt/font is also wrong..shiny silver is the boot the matt black rough paper label and dull silver tpye is the original.APPARENTLY:unsure: MINE WAS THE LATTER..GASHER I'd say The Oxford Nights was a textbook example Dave. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 sound file????????????? gasher Here's a rather nice Canadian copy of Bill Brandon...the flipside is awesome Northern (same as the Tower flip). Gotta be rare?! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Quinvy Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 yeah but remember its been bootlegged. the boots have been sold on the bay and passed off as originals..two different labels. althought Identical but not if you know what I mean..paper is wrong on the boot and the colour of the writing/texrt/font is also wrong..shiny silver is the boot the matt black rough paper label and dull silver tpye is the original.APPARENTLY:unsure: MINE WAS THE LATTER..GASHER Never seen a boot Gash, all the ones that the guy was selling on ebay were kosher. He had loads of other stuff on the label as well. Think they came from the label owner? Phil. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Never seen a boot Gash, all the ones that the guy was selling on ebay were kosher. He had loads of other stuff on the label as well. Think they came from the label owner? Phil. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) "FASCINATORS??????????? THIS SURELY HASN`T BEEN ON EBAY IN ANY QUANTITY. I MUST HAVE MISSED SOMETHING" 8 copies in three years, and thats the ones that Popsike are showing...... Edited June 11, 2009 by mulf Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 sound file????????????? gasher Can't do soundfiles but just played it again and think it has zero potential as a Northern record. Uptempo but not great: a bit like a watered-down version of "Tear Stained Face" without the breaks, menace and attack which made that record a classic. "Rainbow Road" on the other hand is still one of the most essential of all deep records and the greatest of all Quin Ivy productions. A true masterpiece. On a related note a lot of the classic deep rarities have been de-rarified by ebay over the years. Thomas Bailey on Federal, Jimmy Braswell on King and a host of others all seem to appear regularly now whereas a decade ago they were rarely offered for sale: prices are still relatively high but I would guess they don't necessarily need to be. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Can't do soundfiles but just played it again and think it has zero potential as a Northern record. Uptempo but not great: a bit like a watered-down version of "Tear Stained Face" without the breaks, menace and attack which made that record a classic. "Rainbow Road" on the other hand is still one of the most essential of all deep records and the greatest of all Quin Ivy productions. A true masterpiece. On a related note a lot of the classic deep rarities have been de-rarified by ebay over the years. Thomas Bailey on Federal, Jimmy Braswell on King and a host of others all seem to appear regularly now whereas a decade ago they were rarely offered for sale: prices are still relatively high but I would guess they don't necessarily need to be. only one of the 2 TB's on federal though. other one still seems nearly impossible IMO. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gaz Simon Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 How about "love stormy weather" ? rare as hell at one point, seen quite a few go through ebay over the years reasonably cheap?? Wasnt Sy Hightower classed as mega rare in the old Thorne days? now you can get one for the price of 2 Ruby Andrews'!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Can't do soundfiles but just played it again and think it has zero potential as a Northern record. Uptempo but not great: a bit like a watered-down version of "Tear Stained Face" without the breaks, menace and attack which made that record a classic. "Rainbow Road" on the other hand is still one of the most essential of all deep records and the greatest of all Quin Ivy productions. A true masterpiece. On a related note a lot of the classic deep rarities have been de-rarified by ebay over the years. Thomas Bailey on Federal, Jimmy Braswell on King and a host of others all seem to appear regularly now whereas a decade ago they were rarely offered for sale: prices are still relatively high but I would guess they don't necessarily need to be. is that your assesment of "some kind of wonderful" ? i'd have to disagree its so much better than a lot of stuff that gets played and would make a great northern tune IMO. do agree on tear stained face though its amazing. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Isn't there a Braswell on Gene too? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
binsy Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I've played it out, Dylan. Much prefer the flipside though, and although a handful have gone through in the past 18 months I think it continues to be quite a difficult number. Will always be very desirable, for those in the know! Sean With you on that one mate, 'Rainbow rd' is a 10 in anybodys book Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Isn't there a Braswell on Gene too? Mulf: Jimmie Braswell on Gene is the same record. The King release is dubbed from it and given a James Brown credit, despite him having very little to do with it I suspect. The Gene copy is still very rare. Dylan: I've listened to "Something Wonderful" again and can see where you're coming from. Must get a Don Varner one of these days. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Mulf: Jimmie Braswell on Gene is the same record. The King release is dubbed from it and given a James Brown credit, despite him having very little to do with it I suspect. The Gene copy is still very rare. Dylan: I've listened to "Something Wonderful" again and can see where you're coming from. Must get a Don Varner one of these days. I think to get don varner either of us would have to realy splash the cash. Sad but true. and not aimed at you gareth but to answer anoither question above.... jimmie braswell did 2 on gene the king record originally came out on gene and also "one more chance" which I never saw in years of looking then prehaps 5 or 6 copies have gone through ebay in mroe recent time. I've been outbid on at least 4 of them. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I think to get don varner either of us would have to realy splash the cash. Sad but true. and not aimed at you gareth but to answer anoither question above.... jimmie braswell did 2 on gene the king record originally came out on gene and also "one more chance" which I never saw in years of looking then prehaps 5 or 6 copies have gone through ebay in mroe recent time. I've been outbid on at least 4 of them. Indeed Dylan. Much like the Soul Brothers Six on Lyndell I'd only really want the other Jimmie Braswell on Gene for completist purposes and refuse to break the bank for either: that's probably why they always elude me. I very much think that the market for records like these is fairly small, and once a few key players have sorted themselves out with copies there are then bargains to be had. The one deep rarity that never seems to turn up on ebay or anywhere else for that matter is Eugene Evans "Too Much Pain" on Hollywood. I'd love to be proved wrong but I think it's one of the very rarest of all soul records on a known label. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Can't do soundfiles but just played it again and think it has zero potential as a Northern record. Uptempo but not great: a bit like a watered-down version of "Tear Stained Face" without the breaks, menace and attack which made that record a classic. You got me worried...better go and play 'Something wonderful' again...I'm back and suprised, as to my ears it is defo what I would consider to be Northern Soul...and totally scene-playable!? It is awesome danceable Soul...powerful production and performance...stunning brasswork throughout including a instrumental break...spot-on vocal and a decent enough lyric. Agreed it is not a 'Tear stained face' soundalike as it hasn't got dreadful sceaching backing vocals (never really got on with them!), but c'mon it has the Northernsoul-o-meter needles peaking quite nicely in the positive...surely?! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 You got me worried...better go and play 'Something wonderful' again...I'm back and suprised, as to my ears it is defo what I would consider to be Northern Soul...and totally scene-playable!? It is awesome danceable Soul...powerful production and performance...stunning brasswork throughout including a instrumental break...spot-on vocal and a decent enough lyric. Agreed it is not a 'Tear stained face' soundalike as it hasn't got dreadful sceaching backing vocals (never really got on with them!), but c'mon it has the Northernsoul-o-meter needles peaking quite nicely in the positive...surely?! Agreed David, And (thanks to you) I now have a white Tower copy up for grabs! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Agreed David, And (thanks to you) I now have a white Tower copy up for grabs! Sean Sean & Dave: I respect both of you enormously as men of great taste but we'll just have to disagree on this one, I'm afraid. Nice to have it on Canadian, though, as the styrene on the Tower copies is pretty low grade. As to whether it exists on a Tower issue I have a pretty strong recollection of Pat Brady offering one for sale some years ago. Must be pretty rare. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 The one deep rarity that never seems to turn up on ebay or anywhere else for that matter is Eugene Evans "Too Much Pain" on Hollywood. I'd love to be proved wrong but I think it's one of the very rarest of all soul records on a known label. I've never seen it on ebay, suppose they're all tucked away on shelves in Japan. Then again I don't remember seeing "One Hurt" either. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) Sean & Dave: I respect both of you enormously as men of great taste but we'll just have to disagree on this one, I'm afraid. Respect all round Out of interest, would y'all consider Don Varner's 'Sweetest story' to be Northern? (By the way, I know you may be interested to learn that I found a third label variant to that one recently...a WD with the logo (East Coast)...to go alongside the Mid-West press WD with no logo (italic font Quinvy) and the West Coast styrene grey label with logo demo. Full house!). Of course the best thing is Jocko can now buy Sean's spare Tower 45! Edited June 11, 2009 by Anoraks Corner Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I've never seen it on ebay, suppose they're all tucked away on shelves in Japan. Oh! Those pesky mysterious shelves in Japan! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Sean & Dave: I respect both of you enormously as men of great taste but we'll just have to disagree on this one, I'm afraid. Nice to have it on Canadian, though, as the styrene on the Tower copies is pretty low grade. As to whether it exists on a Tower issue I have a pretty strong recollection of Pat Brady offering one for sale some years ago. Must be pretty rare. Yes, Gareth, I've seen a Brown / Red issue too. Could have been Pats. On the "Wonderful" side.... clearly never gonna be a Northern MONSTER but certainly worth a spin or two - especially when you consider a lot of what does get played . Its a bit of a bonus track on the back of the marvellous 'Rainbow Road' 45... I think we'd all agree. Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) As to whether it exists on a Tower issue I have a pretty strong recollection of Pat Brady offering one for sale some years ago. Must be pretty rare. Yes, Gareth, I've seen a Brown / Red issue too. Could have been Pats. I'd definately like to see one of those........... and I'd make a nice space for it to slip into. Edited June 11, 2009 by John Reed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 jimmie braswell did 2 on gene not to forget his great and relatively cheap Jarval 45 which is sheer brilliant and has opened the last I don`t know maybe twenty Hip City events over here. Which Jimmy Braswell 45 did manship had twice up for auction Gene 220 or Gene 222 ? Still need both by the way if anyone has a spare.. Marc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 status quo with new additions Little Tommy SOS Jackey Beavers "I Need My Baby" Clara Hardy on Tuna Dwight Franklin Foxie Lila Bill Brandon on Tower Al Williams on Palmer Four Tracks on Mandingo Jimmy Delphs "Dancing A Hole In The World" Demo Sage on Head Gene Toones Simco Demo Joe Jama Optimum Montclairs Hey You Jackie Day Naughty Boy Carmelita on Carmen Percy Stone on Ram Cashmeres HEM Cautions No Other Way Troy Dodds Try My Love Royal Esquires (Lil`Major Williams on Palladium) Williams III Sam Williams Tower Arthur Freeman Jumbo and Fame Melvin Davis Ke Ke Lawanda Williams Ke Ke Brooks Bros New Yorkers Jock Mitchell Otis Lee Mary Saxton Jesse Johnson September Jones Jesse Davis - Era Paris Ivorys Celebrities Johnny Mae Mathews "I Have No Choice" Tommy & The Derbys Frederick Hymes New World We`re Gonna Make It Curtis Anderson "The Hardest Part" Oxford Nights Delphi Sy Hightower Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 not to forget his great and relatively cheap Jarval 45 which is sheer brilliant and has opened the last I don`t know maybe twenty Hip City events over here. Which Jimmy Braswell 45 did manship had twice up for auction Gene 220 or Gene 222 ? Still need both by the way if anyone has a spare.. Marc I've always expected the jarval to go up in price but it hasn't yet....... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 I've always expected the jarval to go up in price but it hasn't yet....... Its a great Soul 45 with fantastic lyrics. Quality. So no wonder you were expecting it to go up Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Has anone ever seen an issue of the tower release, as I've never seen one? Yep I've got an issue John Cheers Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 ..here´s another addition, Liz Verdi. Remember when I bought my copy off Anglo beginning of 2000 it stated on the sleeve "first copy we ever had for sale". since then there`s been some serious amount on ebay. But only ever one issue. yes, no, yes, no but yes ? Marc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Yep I've got an issue John Cheers Paul Fancy swapping it for a WD and some cash? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Respect all round Out of interest, would y'all consider Don Varner's 'Sweetest story' to be Northern? (By the way, I know you may be interested to learn that I found a third label variant to that one recently...a WD with the logo (East Coast)...to go alongside the Mid-West press WD with no logo (italic font Quinvy) and the West Coast styrene grey label with logo demo. Full house!). Of course the best thing is Jocko can now buy Sean's spare Tower 45! Yes I would defo consider it Northern, in fact I am off to look for and take it to Cleggy to spin upstairs on Saturday, Diamond one worth a spin too, okay not straight ahead Northern, but some would say the obsession with formula NS has killed the fun And am I missing something re the WD Sean? Give me a ring if you have one mate, although would depend on current price, I am a poor banker after all!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Fancy swapping it for a WD and some cash? Nah.......................sorry John Cheers Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest lotusland Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 This thread is interesting but ridiculously putting 45s that 2 or 3 copies have been put up on eBay within 10 years time right next to records that have been up 2-3 times A MONTH for the last decade. Come on. You're right on with the New World's/ etc. but Lil Major Williams? Richard Paradise? seriously. what is it like 100 copies compared to 2? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mikevague Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 This thread is interesting but ridiculously putting 45s that 2 or 3 copies have been put up on eBay within 10 years time right next to records that have been up 2-3 times A MONTH for the last decade. Come on. You're right on with the New World's/ etc. but Lil Major Williams? Richard Paradise? seriously. what is it like 100 copies compared to 2? I agree. If a record has a set sale price and goes on a set sales list 20 times, it usually doesn't make this list as easy as these ebay police seem to notice compared to it hitting ebay a couple of times in the same time period. I always thought supply and demand is what drives a market, rarity being secondary...If demand is dropping, as well as prices, what's next then? I bought a Twans on Ebay awhile back for $200....So now ALL copies are only worth that, after all, I've seen it on ebay 3 more times since....? That's the kind of vibe this thread is getting....just ridiculous. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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