Little-stevie Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Some fantastic feedback with regards to the new Brixton all niter.. A mixed crowd dancing to soul and funk tunes.. Some put this down as the way forward, as was the case when i was part of the promotions for Soul Revolution.... Maybe the way forward for some but not for others.. I really enjoyed Soul Rev in London with a real mixed crowd and broad musical taste.. All kinds of people and style of dancfloor ettiquett that could piss some off... I like more tradtional all niters too with a hardcore crowd of soulies that know the score and things aint changed much in 30 years.. I like the taking the music into little bars without or very little dancefloor and playing different tempo and style from early RnB, jazz, Northern, beat ballads/ deep soul, ska funk,crossover etc etc.. I like Mod events that play 60s RnB encourage a certain style of dress.. I like some crossover modern events too.. I lke the European events with a youger crowd Or sitting around at home with jazz fags and listening to deeeeeeeep soul wrist slashers for hours on end and making grown men and women cry ( you know who you are) I can mix with shandy drinking southern folk, northern ferrett breeders,mad Geordies, drunken scots and Irish and them overseas folk too... Maybe i am a strange creature who can be at home at any of these events .. All these type of events and people are present on this forum and the scene in general... Some people at all of these events are trying to push it as the way forward ... I would like to think the way forward is for people to just go and do what they wanna do and let others do the same.. There is so much choice at the moment, get it while you can, long time dead and all that... I'm in heaven at the thought of these choices each weekend... Can't imagine life ( or don't want to) without it.. Peace brothers and sisters.. The rev.... Kenny Lynch.. xxxxx
KevH Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 As usual Steve,you've cut thru the bull with ease.See you soon matey.
Guest Trevski Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) Amen! BTW Stevie, your wedding do flyer is a cracker! Who did 'em? (PS you look good in the suit!) Edited May 27, 2009 by Trevski
KevH Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Amen! BTW Stevie, your wedding do flyer is a cracker! Who did 'em? Similar to your avatar
Guest Trevski Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Similar to your avatar Indeed. Now I know why I thought Stevie's was good!
Little-stevie Posted May 27, 2009 Author Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) Amen! BTW Stevie, your wedding do flyer is a cracker! Who did 'em? (PS you look good in the suit!) Lydia looks fine.. I look like a cross between Bill Cosby and Andy Peters .. Will mail you the cartoon mans details and website... Back on topic.... now.... sorry... Edited May 27, 2009 by little-stevie
Guest Trevski Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Lydia looks fine.. I look like a cross between Bill Cosby and Andy Peters .. Will mail you the cartoon mans details and website... Maybe you should swap it for your avatar, then we can decide....
spirit Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Good thread, great first post - I agree with most of it. The etiquette thing is a bugbear with me though (and as I'm one of the newer soulies I feel rather embarrassed getting all dancefloor Nazi about it). I love the fact we have a varied scene, but some of the events run by younger promoters in city centres (I'm not singling any out - I've been to a few up and down the country) have the following in common: They are run by genuine, passionate soul fans.They are friendly and welcoming.They attract a younger, or more demographically varied crowd.They have a wider (dare-I-say more open-minded) musical agenda.They don't seem to care about dancefloor etiquette - and its really, really frustrating, because these are otherwise great, dynamic nights.I'd love one of those promoters to explain why? Really, I am not trying to be negative or cause offence, just trying to understand, because that apart, these are the way forward IMO.Â
Little-stevie Posted May 27, 2009 Author Posted May 27, 2009 Good thread, great first post - I agree with most of it. The etiquette thing is a bugbear with me though (and as I'm one of the newer soulies I feel rather embarrassed getting all dancefloor Nazi about it). I love the fact we have a varied scene, but some of the events run by younger promoters in city centres (I'm not singling any out - I've been to a few up and down the country) have the following in common: They are run by genuine, passionate soul fans.They are friendly and welcoming.They attract a younger, or more demographically varied crowd.They have a wider (dare-I-say more open-minded) musical agenda.They don't seem to care about dancefloor etiquette - and its really, really frustrating, because these are otherwise great, dynamic nights.I'd love one of those promoters to explain why? Really, I am not trying to be negative or cause offence, just trying to understand, because that apart, these are the way forward IMO. I am with you on that Spirit... The dancefloor is my church.. I don't want spit/ blood/ beer or people dancing like that drunken uncle at a bad wedding on there.... I also aint doing group hugs with men who get hard in the pants while talking about matrix numbers yet .. Maybe thats to come in later life..
Toodarnsoulful Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Some fantastic feedback with regards to the new Brixton all niter.. A mixed crowd dancing to soul and funk tunes.. Some put this down as the way forward, as was the case when i was part of the promotions for Soul Revolution.... Maybe the way forward for some but not for others.. I really enjoyed Soul Rev in London with a real mixed crowd and broad musical taste.. All kinds of people and style of dancfloor ettiquett that could piss some off... I like more tradtional all niters too with a hardcore crowd of soulies that know the score and things aint changed much in 30 years.. I like the taking the music into little bars without or very little dancefloor and playing different tempo and style from early RnB, jazz, Northern, beat ballads/ deep soul, ska funk,crossover etc etc.. I like Mod events that play 60s RnB encourage a certain style of dress.. I like some crossover modern events too.. I lke the European events with a youger crowd Or sitting around at home with jazz fags and listening to deeeeeeeep soul wrist slashers for hours on end and making grown men and women cry ( you know who you are) I can mix with shandy drinking southern folk, northern ferrett breeders,mad Geordies, drunken scots and Irish and them overseas folk too... Maybe i am a strange creature who can be at home at any of these events .. All these type of events and people are present on this forum and the scene in general... Some people at all of these events are trying to push it as the way forward ... I would like to think the way forward is for people to just go and do what they wanna do and let others do the same.. There is so much choice at the moment, get it while you can, long time dead and all that... I'm in heaven at the thought of these choices each weekend... Can't imagine life ( or don't want to) without it.. Peace brothers and sisters.. The rev.... Kenny Lynch.. xxxxx Right on!..sums it up for me..let the weekend commence! ooh thats tonite in my front room, brews n biccies, football and soul.."THESE ARE THE RICHES OF THE POOR" well in my case anyhow ...
Guest biggray1 Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 They attract a younger, or more demographically varied crowd and wot about us winkleys,dont you want us there....
spirit Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) They attract a younger, or more demographically varied crowd and wot about us winkleys,dont you want us there.... Quite the opposite, biggray1 - I like to see a mix of age ranges and backgrounds (hence 'demographically varied'). But the fact that these clubs are able to draw many more younger people to their nights is to their credit - you can't move forward (the subject of this thread) without attracting fresh blood. Edited May 27, 2009 by spirit
Guest Scarborosoul Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 I am in agreement with mst of whats being said but as to theway forward being mixing genres surely you cant mean on the same dancefloor????? If that is whats meant then Im afraid the NS scene as we know it would be dead. Yes mix the rooms as with Middleton etc but if I started hearing Funk, Ska etc etc at a nighter I would never go again. I am sure I speak for a lot of people and Stevie If Ive got it wrong then just tell me to STFU! Rick
Guest Bearsy Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Some fantastic feedback with regards to the new Brixton all niter.. A mixed crowd dancing to soul and funk tunes.. Some put this down as the way forward, as was the case when i was part of the promotions for Soul Revolution.... Maybe the way forward for some but not for others.. I really enjoyed Soul Rev in London with a real mixed crowd and broad musical taste.. All kinds of people and style of dancfloor ettiquett that could piss some off... I like more tradtional all niters too with a hardcore crowd of soulies that know the score and things aint changed much in 30 years.. I like the taking the music into little bars without or very little dancefloor and playing different tempo and style from early RnB, jazz, Northern, beat ballads/ deep soul, ska funk,crossover etc etc.. I like Mod events that play 60s RnB encourage a certain style of dress.. I like some crossover modern events too.. I lke the European events with a youger crowd Or sitting around at home with jazz fags and listening to deeeeeeeep soul wrist slashers for hours on end and making grown men and women cry ( you know who you are) I can mix with shandy drinking southern folk, northern ferrett breeders,mad Geordies, drunken scots and Irish and them overseas folk too... Maybe i am a strange creature who can be at home at any of these events .. All these type of events and people are present on this forum and the scene in general... Some people at all of these events are trying to push it as the way forward ... I would like to think the way forward is for people to just go and do what they wanna do and let others do the same.. There is so much choice at the moment, get it while you can, long time dead and all that... I'm in heaven at the thought of these choices each weekend... Can't imagine life ( or don't want to) without it.. Peace brothers and sisters.. The rev.... Kenny Lynch.. xxxxx Not many like you about Steve
Little-stevie Posted May 27, 2009 Author Posted May 27, 2009 I am in agreement with mst of whats being said but as to theway forward being mixing genres surely you cant mean on the same dancefloor????? If that is whats meant then Im afraid the NS scene as we know it would be dead. Yes mix the rooms as with Middleton etc but if I started hearing Funk, Ska etc etc at a nighter I would never go again. I am sure I speak for a lot of people and Stevie If Ive got it wrong then just tell me to STFU! Rick Hi Rick Room for all types of music at different venues... Would always want the likes of Middleton in the same format... Also like the funk mixed in at other venues.. Room for other music at club venues and bars and second rooms.. Not saying change anything mate, its just that i like various venues at different times.. cheers steve
spirit Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) as to theway forward being mixing genres surely you cant mean on the same dancefloor????? If that is whats meant then Im afraid the NS scene as we know it would be dead. Yes mix the rooms as with Middleton etc but if I started hearing Funk, Ska etc etc at a nighter I would never go again. I am sure I speak for a lot of peoplePersonally I'd love to go to an event where the only criteria were 'good' and 'danceable' - and some of the aforementioned clubs have a better handle on that than some of the more traditional Northern clubs (I mean in the sense of having fewer boundaries). But I wouldn't like any music policy to be applied to venues, er, 'across the board'. I'm really dancing in sync with Little-Stevie on this one. So to speak. Edited May 27, 2009 by spirit
Kjw Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 For me the way forward is larger venues that attract a larger crowd with 2 or 3 rooms - makes for a better atmosphere. No one is ever going to change the thoughts / opinions etc of the die-hard oldies crowd ( and there's a lot of them out there). They want to hear the classic northern sounds, have a few beers, dance all night and generally have a good time and most of them don't mind if it's original vinyl, re-issues or CD's. Then you need a second room for the northern crowd that have moved on and want to hear underplayed / rare 60's and 70's etc - you probably find this crowd will venture into the northern room - they don't mind the old sounds but don't want to hear them all night. Then a third room for the more diverse mix - bit of RnB, Latin, Jazz etc Like the idea of what Kev Roberts is planning for Stoke in October - 3 rooms - northern, 60's & 70's rare / underplayed and modern. Should keep everyone happy. Just my opinion though
Guest Soultown andy Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 For me the way forward is larger venues that attract a larger crowd with 2 or 3 rooms - makes for a better atmosphere. No one is ever going to change the thoughts / opinions etc of the die-hard oldies crowd ( and there's a lot of them out there). They want to hear the classic northern sounds, have a few beers, dance all night and generally have a good time and most of them don't mind if it's original vinyl, re-issues or CD's. Then you need a second room for the northern crowd that have moved on and want to hear underplayed / rare 60's and 70's etc - you probably find this crowd will venture into the northern room - they don't mind the old sounds but don't want to hear them all night. Then a third room for the more diverse mix - bit of RnB, Latin, Jazz etc Like the idea of what Kev Roberts is planning for Stoke in October - 3 rooms - northern, 60's & 70's rare / underplayed and modern. Should keep everyone happy. Just my opinion though That doesnt half sound like a big niter thats been running for 5 years in north manchester and has just moved to a bigger venue in wigan .At our first niter at crewe we spun a policy of from 60s to today and have to say the modern jock got a bit of stick,so it will now be a 3 room event.On the niter scene its not going to be easy to truly play across the board in a large main room,seperate rooms seems to be prefered by most,might be different at soul nites but im not involved in any so cant comment.
Guest dundeedavie Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 it'd be great if all allnighters had a room where anything but northern is played ..... it's the kind of room you dream of dj'ing in where you could mix R&B , latin , some modern , acid jazz etc ....bliss
Chalky Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 For me the way forward is larger venues that attract a larger crowd with 2 or 3 rooms - makes for a better atmosphere. No one is ever going to change the thoughts / opinions etc of the die-hard oldies crowd ( and there's a lot of them out there). They want to hear the classic northern sounds, have a few beers, dance all night and generally have a good time and most of them don't mind if it's original vinyl, re-issues or CD's. Then you need a second room for the northern crowd that have moved on and want to hear underplayed / rare 60's and 70's etc - you probably find this crowd will venture into the northern room - they don't mind the old sounds but don't want to hear them all night. Then a third room for the more diverse mix - bit of RnB, Latin, Jazz etc Like the idea of what Kev Roberts is planning for Stoke in October - 3 rooms - northern, 60's & 70's rare / underplayed and modern. Should keep everyone happy. Just my opinion though I have to disagree Keith. How is it the way forward to stick the something for the something different crowd in a side room. With the right DJ's using imagination it is possible to play across the board at a mainstream all-nighter...after all Lifeline does it
Guest Byrney Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Some fantastic feedback with regards to the new Brixton all niter.. A mixed crowd dancing to soul and funk tunes.. Some put this down as the way forward, as was the case when i was part of the promotions for Soul Revolution.... Maybe the way forward for some but not for others.. I really enjoyed Soul Rev in London with a real mixed crowd and broad musical taste.. All kinds of people and style of dancfloor etiquette that could piss some off... I like more tradtional all niters too with a hardcore crowd of soulies that know the score and things aint changed much in 30 years.. I like the taking the music into little bars without or very little dancefloor and playing different tempo and style from early RnB, jazz, Northern, beat ballads/ deep soul, ska funk,crossover etc etc.. I like Mod events that play 60s RnB encourage a certain style of dress.. I like some crossover modern events too.. I lke the European events with a youger crowd Or sitting around at home with jazz fags and listening to deeeeeeeep soul wrist slashers for hours on end and making grown men and women cry ( you know who you are) I can mix with shandy drinking southern folk, northern ferrett breeders,mad Geordies, drunken scots and Irish and them overseas folk too... Maybe i am a strange creature who can be at home at any of these events .. All these type of events and people are present on this forum and the scene in general... Some people at all of these events are trying to push it as the way forward ... I would like to think the way forward is for people to just go and do what they wanna do and let others do the same.. There is so much choice at the moment, get it while you can, long time dead and all that... I'm in heaven at the thought of these choices each weekend... Can't imagine life ( or don't want to) without it.. Peace brothers and sisters.. The rev.... Kenny Lynch.. xxxxx In total agreement Stevie. My comments on The Whole Thing thread were about a way or event that is new to me, I've not been to European Nighters (sorting this next year) which I guess TWT is like and I must say I loved it. Another, different way to enjoy quality, vintage soul music in a club. Yes the floor etiquette could sometimes leave something to be desired, but for me the crowd being bang into it, some seeming eager it made up for any shortcomings in this area. Had the crack with a few of the non northern crowd there as well, friendly as you like. I went to the first Soul Rev @ the Bedroom and was equally impressed. I don't know if events like TWT is THE way forward but for me its one good route to take, alongside the other ways in which soul can be appreciated. I just get the feeling that events like this stand a good chance of getting newbies interested in the music we love and offers a cracking alternative for us who's been a round a bit.
Jellybean Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) For me the way forward is larger venues that attract a larger crowd with 2 or 3 rooms - makes for a better atmosphere. No one is ever going to change the thoughts / opinions etc of the die-hard oldies crowd ( and there's a lot of them out there). They want to hear the classic northern sounds, have a few beers, dance all night and generally have a good time and most of them don't mind if it's original vinyl, re-issues or CD's. Then you need a second room for the northern crowd that have moved on and want to hear underplayed / rare 60's and 70's etc - you probably find this crowd will venture into the northern room - they don't mind the old sounds but don't want to hear them all night. Then a third room for the more diverse mix - bit of RnB, Latin, Jazz etc Like the idea of what Kev Roberts is planning for Stoke in October - 3 rooms - northern, 60's & 70's rare / underplayed and modern. Should keep everyone happy. Just my opinion though Your opinion sounds good to me Edited May 27, 2009 by JELLYBEAN
Kjw Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 I have to disagree Keith. How is it the way forward to stick the something for the something different crowd in a side room. With the right DJ's using imagination it is possible to play across the board at a mainstream all-nighter...after all Lifeline does it Hi Chalky Understand what you are saying but Lifeline caters for a crowd that are open to listening to a diverse mix. The point I was making is that the oldies crowd won't accept anything but the tried and tested northern classics. I've seen it numerous times at local nights when they clear the floor once the music changes and next month they don't turn up - this makes the promoters wary of trying it again. That's why I think the multi-room policy works best. But, like I said just my opinion. Kev
Theresa Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Some fantastic feedback with regards to the new Brixton all niter.. A mixed crowd dancing to soul and funk tunes.. Some put this down as the way forward, as was the case when i was part of the promotions for Soul Revolution.... Maybe the way forward for some but not for others.. I really enjoyed Soul Rev in London with a real mixed crowd and broad musical taste.. All kinds of people and style of dancfloor ettiquett that could piss some off... I like more tradtional all niters too with a hardcore crowd of soulies that know the score and things aint changed much in 30 years.. I like the taking the music into little bars without or very little dancefloor and playing different tempo and style from early RnB, jazz, Northern, beat ballads/ deep soul, ska funk,crossover etc etc.. I like Mod events that play 60s RnB encourage a certain style of dress.. I like some crossover modern events too.. I lke the European events with a youger crowd Or sitting around at home with jazz fags and listening to deeeeeeeep soul wrist slashers for hours on end and making grown men and women cry ( you know who you are) I can mix with shandy drinking southern folk, northern ferrett breeders,mad Geordies, drunken scots and Irish and them overseas folk too... Maybe i am a strange creature who can be at home at any of these events .. All these type of events and people are present on this forum and the scene in general... Some people at all of these events are trying to push it as the way forward ... I would like to think the way forward is for people to just go and do what they wanna do and let others do the same.. There is so much choice at the moment, get it while you can, long time dead and all that... I'm in heaven at the thought of these choices each weekend... Can't imagine life ( or don't want to) without it.. Peace brothers and sisters.. The rev.... Kenny Lynch.. xxxxx Agree with you completely Steve. Love having the choice, love going to different places, and also love coming 'home' to a big, perfect, sprung, (dry!) polished wooden dancefloor where everybody knows the score . The dancefloor etiquette thing can rankle at times in places like TWT (not sure that's an acronym that Ion's gonna like!) but you wouldn't get that combination of tunes played anywhere else, it's kind of exciting, and you also wouldn't have the chance to meet so many genuinely friendly 'off the scene' people. The majority on Sunday were normal London clubbers, so how can they know what constitutes good manners on a northern dancefloor? Promoters can hardly give everyone a lesson on the way in That could be a whole new thread - has anyone ever written the definitive dancefloor rules? Another issue pointed out by my single friends is that these soul nights with an overall slightly younger, more eclectic clubbing crowd, offer a bit more of a pulling environment than your traditional northern venues T x
Guest dundeedavie Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 gotta say i don't get all the emphasis on "dancefloor etiquette" ..at basics we don't have it as such , we keep an eye on them to make sure they don't get silly but we let them have fun and we never get any bother or problems and that's possibly why we have a young crowd .... that and they love the R&B/soul combo
Liljimmycrank Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Completely agree with you Mr C, well said. As someone who regularly attends these "new" nights, but also attends traditional soul clubs / nighters and has done for some time, i can see why the dancefloor etiquette subject may cause a stir. However........... My experience of things would suggest that these younger inexperienced people come to these nights, love the music, leave happy. Attend again, leave happy. Attend again, learn the rules, leave happy. Attend again, dance, learn more, spread the word, make friends from "the scene" and go on to more traditional nights where they're adopted into the world of soul. That can only be a good thing right? I dont think promoters of such nights should be knocked if they bring new blood into the scene, and perhaps introduce lesser known tunes / establishd genres into the scene too. Surely there's a place somewhere for everyone and everything? Variety is the spice of life, and we all started somehwere
Guest Soultown andy Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 I suppose most promoters would also have to take into account the size of the crowd the event caters to,but i think a lot under estimate their audience good djs with imagination is the key.Have to say we dont have many problems with dance floor etiquette from the younger end in fact quite the opposite.
Guest Ollie Lailey Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Completely agree with you Mr C, well said. As someone who regularly attends these "new" nights, but also attends traditional soul clubs / nighters and has done for some time, i can see why the dancefloor etiquette subject may cause a stir. However........... My experience of things would suggest that these younger inexperienced people come to these nights, love the music, leave happy. Attend again, leave happy. Attend again, learn the rules, leave happy. Attend again, dance, learn more, spread the word, make friends from "the scene" and go on to more traditional nights where they're adopted into the world of soul. That can only be a good thing right? I dont think promoters of such nights should be knocked if they bring new blood into the scene, and perhaps introduce lesser known tunes / establishd genres into the scene too. Surely there's a place somewhere for everyone and everything? Variety is the spice of life, and we all started somehwere 100% Agree with this, thats how i got where I am today............
Guest Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 That doesnt half sound like a big niter thats been running for 5 years in north manchester and has just moved to a bigger venue in wigan .At our first niter at crewe we spun a policy of from 60s to today and have to say the modern jock got a bit of stick,so it will now be a 3 room event.On the niter scene its not going to be easy to truly play across the board in a large main room,seperate rooms seems to be prefered by most,might be different at soul nites but im not involved in any so cant comment. Sounds like the old 3 room Bury Town Hall niters too, I loved it when we used to have 3 roomers up til about the 7th anniversary night & the bl**dy council spent thousands on a new carpet for a royal visit & wouldn't let us use that room anymore because we might get talc on it (I kid you not!) bl**dy councils!!! Can't beat 3 rooms for me. Jayne.
Guest Byrney Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 100% Agree with this, thats how i got where I am today............ bit off topic but Fjall Raven is really nice stuff. Sorry, as you were
Guest Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Some fantastic feedback with regards to the new Brixton all niter.. A mixed crowd dancing to soul and funk tunes.. Some put this down as the way forward, as was the case when i was part of the promotions for Soul Revolution.... Maybe the way forward for some but not for others.. I really enjoyed Soul Rev in London with a real mixed crowd and broad musical taste.. All kinds of people and style of dancfloor ettiquett that could piss some off... I like more tradtional all niters too with a hardcore crowd of soulies that know the score and things aint changed much in 30 years.. I like the taking the music into little bars without or very little dancefloor and playing different tempo and style from early RnB, jazz, Northern, beat ballads/ deep soul, ska funk,crossover etc etc.. I like Mod events that play 60s RnB encourage a certain style of dress.. I like some crossover modern events too.. I lke the European events with a youger crowd Or sitting around at home with jazz fags and listening to deeeeeeeep soul wrist slashers for hours on end and making grown men and women cry ( you know who you are) I can mix with shandy drinking southern folk, northern ferrett breeders,mad Geordies, drunken scots and Irish and them overseas folk too... Maybe i am a strange creature who can be at home at any of these events .. All these type of events and people are present on this forum and the scene in general... Some people at all of these events are trying to push it as the way forward ... I would like to think the way forward is for people to just go and do what they wanna do and let others do the same.. There is so much choice at the moment, get it while you can, long time dead and all that... I'm in heaven at the thought of these choices each weekend... Can't imagine life ( or don't want to) without it.. Peace brothers and sisters.. The rev.... Kenny Lynch.. xxxxx You are going out and to great places ! Enjoying the company of fantastic people ! You have an open mind and great taste ! You are a lovley man who generates positivity ! Your smile and warm manners are most infectuious and always remembered ! I wish you and Lydia all the best with your Wedding. I hope everything goes completley nice for both of you my freinds ! Best Wishes Where are you going for your honeymoon? I have been to Jamaica recently and would recommend this place to you if you have not been ! You can both float up the love tree there man ! Eiree ....Mossy Peace !
Guest SoulRenaissance Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Completely agree with you Mr C, well said. As someone who regularly attends these "new" nights, but also attends traditional soul clubs / nighters and has done for some time, i can see why the dancefloor etiquette subject may cause a stir. However........... My experience of things would suggest that these younger inexperienced people come to these nights, love the music, leave happy. Attend again, leave happy. Attend again, learn the rules, leave happy. Attend again, dance, learn more, spread the word, make friends from "the scene" and go on to more traditional nights where they're adopted into the world of soul. That can only be a good thing right? I dont think promoters of such nights should be knocked if they bring new blood into the scene, and perhaps introduce lesser known tunes / establishd genres into the scene too. Surely there's a place somewhere for everyone and everything? Variety is the spice of life, and we all started somehwere Let the mind be free!
Guest SoulRenaissance Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Some fantastic feedback with regards to the new Brixton all niter.. A mixed crowd dancing to soul and funk tunes.. Some put this down as the way forward, as was the case when i was part of the promotions for Soul Revolution.... Maybe the way forward for some but not for others.. I really enjoyed Soul Rev in London with a real mixed crowd and broad musical taste.. All kinds of people and style of dancfloor ettiquett that could piss some off... I like more tradtional all niters too with a hardcore crowd of soulies that know the score and things aint changed much in 30 years.. I like the taking the music into little bars without or very little dancefloor and playing different tempo and style from early RnB, jazz, Northern, beat ballads/ deep soul, ska funk,crossover etc etc.. I like Mod events that play 60s RnB encourage a certain style of dress.. I like some crossover modern events too.. I lke the European events with a youger crowd Or sitting around at home with jazz fags and listening to deeeeeeeep soul wrist slashers for hours on end and making grown men and women cry ( you know who you are) I can mix with shandy drinking southern folk, northern ferrett breeders,mad Geordies, drunken scots and Irish and them overseas folk too... Maybe i am a strange creature who can be at home at any of these events .. All these type of events and people are present on this forum and the scene in general... Some people at all of these events are trying to push it as the way forward ... I would like to think the way forward is for people to just go and do what they wanna do and let others do the same.. There is so much choice at the moment, get it while you can, long time dead and all that... I'm in heaven at the thought of these choices each weekend... Can't imagine life ( or don't want to) without it.. Peace brothers and sisters.. The rev.... Kenny Lynch.. xxxxx Seems to me some of you are missing the point, and not connecting with what he's visualising from a spiritual point of view. And at the same time that he's an open-minded soul, that's craving the ultimate soul experience. With some of you only seeing it from a typical narrow-minded Northern/ Rare/ oldies point of view. Can't some of you just move out of this preconcieved notion of what were supposed to be about for a change? Martyn
Guest Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Seems to me some of you are missing the point, and not connecting with what he's visualising from a spiritual point of view. And at the same time that he's an open-minded soul, that's craving the ultimate soul experience. With some of you only seeing it from a typical narrow-minded Northern/ Rare/ oldies point of view. Can't some of you just move out of this preconcieved notion of what were supposed to be about for a change? Martyn Nope!.. came to that conclusion ages ago! Jayne.x
Guest Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) Seems to me some of you are missing the point, and not connecting with what he's visualising from a spiritual point of view. And at the same time that he's an open-minded soul, that's craving the ultimate soul experience. With some of you only seeing it from a typical narrow-minded Northern/ Rare/ oldies point of view. Can't some of you just move out of this preconcieved notion of what were supposed to be about for a change? Martyn I agree - lets skin up and swallow some Methdyioximeth23methamphetamine ! : This lot are such a drag ! If fun came in a bag that you could stick up your bum ..... half of these sorry feckers would end up with it on their heads ! only joking BTW Edited May 28, 2009 by mossy
Guest Roddy Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Just who are these Drunkin Scots Stevie ? They should be named and shamed letting the nation down with their abhorent behaviour !
spirit Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 it'd be great if all allnighters had a room where anything but northern is played ..... it's the kind of room you dream of dj'ing in where you could mix R&B , latin , some modern , acid jazz etc ....bliss Love that idea, though I guess there is a limit to the number of rooms available. To an extent Rugby freestyle room seems to have a similar policy. Anyway, I think the way things are is pretty healthy overall, lots of different options for us all. Strength in diversity and all that. Bidds uptempo/underplayed one week. Attic and the buzzing Grosvenor oldies night on my doorstep. Beat Boutique and Burnley the next month. This weekend - Stormin' Soul? Kings Hall? both? something else? I for one feel pretty lucky in my choices...
Liljimmycrank Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 I for one feel pretty lucky in my choices... Agreed, we are lucky. And the fact there is so much choice available, which seemingly meets the soul community's diverse musical interests, answers the way forward IMO. Types of music and their roots do sometimes overlap, and some nights cater for that by playing the said types in the same venue. Some nights dont and just go with one genre........but if there's always a few options available at different venues (which there is in abundance), as punters and lovers of great music surely we cant complain.
spirit Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) As someone who regularly attends these "new" nights, but also attends traditional soul clubs / nighters and has done for some time, i can see why the dancefloor etiquette subject may cause a stir. However........... My experience of things would suggest that these younger inexperienced people come to these nights, love the music, leave happy. Attend again, leave happy. Attend again, learn the rules, leave happy. Attend again, dance, learn more, spread the word, make friends from "the scene" and go on to more traditional nights where they're adopted into the world of soul. That's a very strong argument - and having seen regular returnees to the clubs in question - believable, though I think promoters of those events should perhaps indicate that approach when advertising where it goes significantly against the norm (eg. here). Some of us would go along anyway out of curiosity, and return (as I have) due to them often being Byrney's 'cracking alternative'. Perhaps my interpretation of the 'norm' is too proscriptive or a minority opinion though, I don't know. Edited May 28, 2009 by spirit
spirit Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 And the fact there is so much choice available, which seemingly meets the soul community's diverse musical interests, answers the way forward IMO ... as punters and lovers of great music surely we cant complain Yes, I think so, and individually, events which have strong identities distinguishing them from the crowd will have the best chance of flowering, at least for a while - assuming they make it through the initial period. Punters who can adapt and are open to different experiences will probably be the happiest, as they won't be tied to the success or failure of one club or type of event. Not sure some of us will stop moaning though...
Denbo Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 That doesnt half sound like a big niter thats been running for 5 years in north manchester and has just moved to a bigger venue in wigan .At our first niter at crewe we spun a policy of from 60s to today and have to say the modern jock got a bit of stick,so it will now be a 3 room event.On the niter scene its not going to be easy to truly play across the board in a large main room,seperate rooms seems to be prefered by most,might be different at soul nites but im not involved in any so cant comment. 3 room event? Does this mean you will now NOT be alternating the CW and Back Beat rooms on a monthly basis? Will Maximes be exactly like Middleton was, old and new?
Guest Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Yes, I think so, and individually, events which have strong identities distinguishing them from the crowd will have the best chance of flowering, at least for a while - assuming they make it through the initial period. Punters who can adapt and are open to different experiences will probably be the happiest, as they won't be tied to the success or failure of one club or type of event. Not sure some of us will stop moaning though... spot on! Jayne.x
Liljimmycrank Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 though I think promoters of those events should perhaps indicate that approach when advertising where it goes significantly against the norm (eg. here). Can only speak for the nights and promoters that i know of but i dont think anyone's tried to pull the wool over people's eyes. All promotion i've seen clearly indicates music genres played, and venue location advertised. Again, goes back to the point regards choice - we all have one. If mis informed, then by all means people are entitled to a whinge, but if it does what it says on the tin, where's the problem?
Dylan Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 bit off topic but Fjall Raven is really nice stuff. Sorry, as you were agree and great value with a bit of internet searching. got a nordi, telemark II and oban myself.
Guest Scarborosoul Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Seems to me some of you are missing the point, and not connecting with what he's visualising from a spiritual point of view. And at the same time that he's an open-minded soul, that's craving the ultimate soul experience. With some of you only seeing it from a typical narrow-minded Northern/ Rare/ oldies point of view. Can't some of you just move out of this preconcieved notion of what were supposed to be about for a change? Martyn I dont think I am missing the point and Im far from narrow minded, BUT when I go to a NORTHERN SOUL all-nighter then I expect NORTHERN SOUL not funk, ska, acid, etc etc. When I got to Burnley I expect uptempo 60s/unknowns and even latin or Middleton now Maximes I expect to be going from room to room for the R & B etc but in the main room I expect NORTHRN SOUL and thats what I get. Now I have always loved Crewe and the last one a few weeks ago had 2 rooms with Modern etc etc upstairs and oldies downstairs. I spent 90% of the night in the oldies room and danced my nuts off. If it had been 1 room and ska and funk had been also played I would have never have gone again. It should never ever be mixed on the same dancefloor EVER. Rick
Guest aintgotit Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Sounds like the old 3 room Bury Town Hall niters too, I loved it when we used to have 3 roomers up til about the 7th anniversary night & the bl**dy council spent thousands on a new carpet for a royal visit & wouldn't let us use that room anymore because we might get talc on it (I kid you not!) bl**dy councils!!! Can't beat 3 rooms for me. Jayne. Maybe on the subject of playing old and new diverse and disparate but related by searching for quality, theres one or two others aren,t there?todmorden alldayer, clifton hall ,both only one room but right across the board as was snaith, never went but the mecca and the ritz,happiness stans in london in the nineties,4 rooms , bretby , tony,s ,bradford queens hall ,all 2 rooms,the best alldayer i,ve ever been to at club had a weekender feel to it,we all idealise what we,ve heard before as the best we,ve had or are likely to have ,till we actually listen to something new and begin to recognise the feeling we have is there just presented differently,st ives soul evolution in april last year was pretty close to perfection in genres of soul ,background and ages of punters ,layout of the room, atmosphere ,all of us that went were long in the tooth , but i dont know anyone who dived for the bus to go on to the 100 club, the lad whos says he,d stop goin if the nights mixed music policy isnt exclusively northern , is depriving himself and surely a night out is about indulging in and finding soul where you least expect it, the town hall, a country club or the outskirts of a deprived town or a city thats fighting to get the taxi home bladdered and bewildered.Even a sweltering monday morning on a brit packed holiday resort as the rush hours peaking.youngsters see things with the same eyes we once did and a broader back catalogue to choose from,isnt that cause for optimism?
Little-stevie Posted May 28, 2009 Author Posted May 28, 2009 Rick says Just Northern and Whatsthiscalled says he is depriving himself .. The point of the topic was.. There is enough choice for you both to find what you want.. You go get your mixed bag of soul and Rick can stick with the northern... Both happy that way.. Quite simple... win win... for now.. Time will tell what is the way forward by bodies through the door at certain events..
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