Guest dundeedavie Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 i actually do have respect for Ian and what he has done ....however , i ask again , that show was meant to be a MOD show so what relevance does Ian have to the MOD scene ?
Guest James Trouble Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) I didn't know he played any carvers for sure but when listening I did think the Parliaments sounded muffled compared to rest of playlist. Was it a carver then James? And Margie Singleton Ian said was unreleased and yet on a previous thread I think you and Chalky said you'd been playing it or at least already knew it. Is it unreleased? ROD I don't play the Margie Singleton, Chalky and Art' do though. Chalky has been playing it for 2 or 3 years I think? On the carvers, Levine was playing them at Crossfire, that's a fact. There were at least 3 in the first hour of this BBC 6 thing he just did which were bootlegs/carvers, or were they mp3 cuts? Have another listen back, it could be another 'hang man' type game we could play, like "guess the unknown northern soul monster discovery" but this is "Guess the carver". I wonder if he played the Parliaments off an MP3 that was pulled from this site? That one sounded particularly rough. Very sad having to play records other people have made big after his boasts about the '400 great unknown monster northern soul records in a special box'. I guess some folk still need their idols to believe in. Keep the faith, people Edited May 24, 2009 by James Trouble
Pete S Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 I don't play the Margie Singleton, Chalky and Art' do though. Chalky has been playing it for 2 or 3 years I think? On the carvers, Levine was playing them at Crossfire, that's a fact. There were at least 3 in the first hour of this BBC 6 thing he just did which were bootlegs/carvers, or were they mp3 cuts? Have another listen back, it could be another 'hang man' type game we could play, like "guess the unknown northern soul monster discovery" but this is "Guess the carver". I wonder if he played the Parliaments off an MP3 that was pulled from this site? That one sounded particularly rough. Very sad having to play records other people have made big after his boasts about the '400 great unknown monster northern soul records in a special box'. I guess some folk still need their idols to believe in. Keep the faith, people I don't think it's meant to be a dick measuring contest, I presume he was told to do a 2 hour show which will entertain the listeners so he can play what he wants basically, doesn't matter who discovered it or where it came from as long as the audience enjoy it - and out of that audience of, say, 100,000, there's 3 of you listening out to see if he's playing a carver, which is very sad really.
Chalky Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 has anyone got any more info on that unreleased contours record cant fight the feeling?? cellarful of motown vol 4 anyone?? Think that sounds like the unreleased Contours I've been playing two or three years....I first played it at Lifeline and one of the Skeggy Weekenders. Karl Heard been playing it as well, John Poole too, if it's the same one.
Guest Dj Imod Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 What exactly do you mean??? Well ''I mean'' When Levine said ''maybe we'll meet again'' My quote, ''NOT IN THIS LIFETIME SUNSHINE''
Chalky Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) the second track from his exclusive 3? I haven't listened but what were the exclusive three off this list? Was Marge Singleton and Contours two of 'em The Charades - Key To My Happiness Impact - Smile A While Tommy and The Derbys - Don't Play That Role Tommy Tate - If You Ain't Man Enough- Martha Starr - Sweet Temptation- The Moments - Key To My Happiness Rhetta Hughes - Cry Myself To Sleep The Soul-Sations - Can't Take The Pain - LJ Reynolds - Key To The World Margie Singleton - Never Let Go Sharon Scott - I'm Not Afraid - The Poets - Wrapped Around Your Finger Patrinelle Staton - A Little Love Affair The Festivals - Gee Baby The Contours - I Just Can't Stop This Feeling Benny Harper - My Prayer Collette Kelly - City of Fools Benny Latimore - Jolie Sandy Golden - Your Love Is Everything James Lovejoy - Divide and Conquer The Parliaments - My Rainy Day The Originals - Don't Stop Now CP Spencer - This Man Needs You The Exciters - Reaching For The Best Nat Augustin - Love Is My Sanctuary The Four Vandals - The Wrong Side Of Town The Concentrations - Man On The Spot Venicia Wilson - This Time I'm Loving You Tahira Jumah - Waterfalls - Barbara Pennington - Twenty Four Hours A Day Sidney Barnes - Standing On Solid Ground - Lyn Jerrard - Guarantee Of A Lifetime Esjae Gennice - Standing In The Darkness - Ronnie Walker - Out Of The Shadows - Davinah Edwards - So Far Beyond My Dreaming Tommy Hunt - Nothing But Good Times - Nat Augustin - I Found Heaven JJ and Orthea Barnes - Send Some Love Chuck Jackson - All Over The World Frances Nero - Footsteps Following Me Edited May 24, 2009 by chalky
Pete Eccles Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 I haven't listened but what were the exclusive three off this list? Was Marge Singleton and Contours two of 'em The Charades - Key To My Happiness Impact - Smile A While Tommy and The Derbys - Don't Play That Role Tommy Tate - If You Ain't Man Enough- Martha Starr - Sweet Temptation- The Moments - Key To My Happiness Rhetta Hughes - Cry Myself To Sleep The Soul-Sations - Can't Take The Pain - LJ Reynolds - Key To The World Margie Singleton - Never Let Go Sharon Scott - I'm Not Afraid - The Poets - Wrapped Around Your Finger Patrinelle Staton - A Little Love Affair The Festivals - Gee Baby The Contours - I Just Can't Stop This Feeling Benny Harper - My Prayer Collette Kelly - City of Fools Benny Latimore - Jolie Sandy Golden - Your Love Is Everything James Lovejoy - Divide and Conquer The Parliaments - My Rainy Day The Originals - Don't Stop Now CP Spencer - This Man Needs You The Exciters - Reaching For The Best Nat Augustin - Love Is My Sanctuary The Four Vandals - The Wrong Side Of Town The Concentrations - Man On The Spot Venicia Wilson - This Time I'm Loving You Tahira Jumah - Waterfalls - Barbara Pennington - Twenty Four Hours A Day Sidney Barnes - Standing On Solid Ground - Lyn Jerrard - Guarantee Of A Lifetime Esjae Gennice - Standing In The Darkness - Ronnie Walker - Out Of The Shadows - Davinah Edwards - So Far Beyond My Dreaming Tommy Hunt - Nothing But Good Times - Nat Augustin - I Found Heaven JJ and Orthea Barnes - Send Some Love Chuck Jackson - All Over The World Frances Nero - Footsteps Following Me Chalky it was the 3 highlighted if memory serves, I did listen in whilst doing other things, including drinking,
Epic Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 I haven't listened but what were the exclusive three off this list? Was Marge Singleton and Contours two of 'em Lyn Jerrard - Guarantee Of A Lifetime Esjae Gennice - Standing In The Darkness Ronnie Walker - Out Of The Shadows They were 3 tunes Ian has produced & were getting their first airing on his show.
Epic Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 i actually do have respect for Ian and what he has done ....however , i ask again , that show was meant to be a MOD show so what relevance does Ian have to the MOD scene ? The same relevance MODs have to Ian's scene.
Chalky Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 Chalky it was the 3 highlighted if memory serves, I did listen in whilst doing other things, including drinking, Cheers Pete, Contours (listening now) not the one I've been spinning but I do have it somewhere. I'll give the second part of show a listen later.
Modernsoulsucks Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 I haven't listened but what were the exclusive three off this list? Was Marge Singleton and Contours two of 'em The Charades - Key To My Happiness Impact - Smile A While Tommy and The Derbys - Don't Play That Role Tommy Tate - If You Ain't Man Enough- Martha Starr - Sweet Temptation- The Moments - Key To My Happiness Rhetta Hughes - Cry Myself To Sleep The Soul-Sations - Can't Take The Pain - LJ Reynolds - Key To The World Margie Singleton - Never Let Go Sharon Scott - I'm Not Afraid - The Poets - Wrapped Around Your Finger Patrinelle Staton - A Little Love Affair The Festivals - Gee Baby The Contours - I Just Can't Stop This Feeling Benny Harper - My Prayer Collette Kelly - City of Fools Benny Latimore - Jolie Sandy Golden - Your Love Is Everything James Lovejoy - Divide and Conquer The Parliaments - My Rainy Day The Originals - Don't Stop Now CP Spencer - This Man Needs You The Exciters - Reaching For The Best Nat Augustin - Love Is My Sanctuary The Four Vandals - The Wrong Side Of Town The Concentrations - Man On The Spot Venicia Wilson - This Time I'm Loving You Tahira Jumah - Waterfalls - Barbara Pennington - Twenty Four Hours A Day Sidney Barnes - Standing On Solid Ground - Lyn Jerrard - Guarantee Of A Lifetime Esjae Gennice - Standing In The Darkness - Ronnie Walker - Out Of The Shadows - Davinah Edwards - So Far Beyond My Dreaming Tommy Hunt - Nothing But Good Times - Nat Augustin - I Found Heaven JJ and Orthea Barnes - Send Some Love Chuck Jackson - All Over The World Frances Nero - Footsteps Following Me Soulsations "Here comes the pain" on Ste-al. $125 on Moerer's list. Great record but bit slow for dance floor. So Chalky what's the score with Singleton track. Unissued or what? ROD
Ted Massey Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) Its unissued i think John weston has been spinning it as well I have a good recording of it if any one needs one Edited May 24, 2009 by Tedsoul
Modernsoulsucks Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 I don't think it's meant to be a dick measuring contest, I presume he was told to do a 2 hour show which will entertain the listeners so he can play what he wants basically, doesn't matter who discovered it or where it came from as long as the audience enjoy it - and out of that audience of, say, 100,000, there's 3 of you listening out to see if he's playing a carver, which is very sad really. Hey, I hope you're not including me in that. Didn't expect him to play carvers and only replied to James that I thought Parliaments sounded muffled compared to the rest of the stuff. I think in the context of the argument on SS between Ian and James, There was no sign of the 400 or whatever "newies". There was nothing new 60's wise to me and even though I know bugger-all about 70's only Impact, James Lovejoy and Latimore track were new too. You may be right that Ian didn't set out to showcase all new stuff but if I'd been at loggerheads with James and others I certainly would have done. That spot in a club with the odd tweak woulda suited me down to the ground. I think it came well within James' reflections on the current scene where there is no oldies V. Newies but just good records delivered by enthusiastic and passionate djs. ROD
Guest James Trouble Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) Lyn Jerrard - Guarantee Of A Lifetime Esjae Gennice - Standing In The Darkness Ronnie Walker - Out Of The Shadows They were 3 tunes Ian has produced & were getting their first airing on his show. They'll probably stay exclusive to Ian's playlist and not get aired anywhere else Talking of exclusive Levine spins, what's happened with the Peter Lamarr? How's the sales of that going, I've not noticed anyone else play it? Maybe it's not been distributed? Edited May 24, 2009 by James Trouble
Guest Paul Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 Well ''I mean'' When Levine said ''maybe we'll meet again'' My quote, ''NOT IN THIS LIFETIME SUNSHINE'' Very clever, if you think so, but nothing to do with my posting.
paup-ine Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 (edited) Despite a certain faction desperately wanting it to be otherwise , it would appear that the show has been given the seal of approval in respect of credibility , by those SS members who listened purely and simply for the music , and more so , who listened to it without predudice . Malc Burton Got to agree with you Malc. Some have got wool over their ears, and some are answering their own posts Ian did a great job. It made me realise why I got into it in the first place. Fresh, new, different. P Edited May 24, 2009 by paup-ine
Mark S Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 Cracking show didnt like the Ronnie Walker track though .
Simon M Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 Not a bad show for the BBC. Alas James Lovjoy was a disappointment and the Parliaments sounded very low kps Simon ps. The Impacts sounds great for the Beach scene
Guest Lobster Madras Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) Link below to the BBC iPlayer thingy for anyone who was out & might have missed the show. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00kn...Mix_23_05_2009/ Thanks me old china, the show was accessible to "foreigners".. Thoroughly enjoyed the first half of the show, some really superb choices, ( except James Lovejoy ) but after the Exciters; which I still love hearing, as part of my(our) youth , it really did remind me of why I find it difficult to connect Ian Levine the innovative DJ with the producer of the same name... Some very dull ones and really nothing to get at all excited about. And why did he have to mention Boyzone and all that utter boyband drivel FF sake ? HIGH NRG !! NO ! And I am DEFINITELY NOT feeding/backing JT's anti Levine camapign by the way, just a personal view in case I could be any way connected Edited May 25, 2009 by Lobster Madras
Quinvy Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Only just got round to listening to this, but agree that the Contours track sounded excellent. I have never heard it played out, but I would love a cut of it.
Guest Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) I didn't know he played any carvers for sure but when listening I did think the Parliaments sounded muffled compared to rest of playlist. Was it a carver then James? And Margie Singleton Ian said was unreleased and yet on a previous thread I think you and Chalky said you'd been playing it or at least already knew it. Is it unreleased? ROD For those who missed it , the show is available until this coming Saturday , by accessing the link below ...... https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00kn...Mix_23_05_2009/ First hour - The Charades - Key To My Happiness Impact - Smile A While Tommy and The Derbys - Don't Play That Role Tommy Tate - If You Ain't Man Enough Martha Starr - Sweet Temptation The Moments - Key To My Happiness Rhetta Hughes - Cry Myself To Sleep The Soul-Sations - Can't Take The Pain LJ Reynolds - Key To The World Margie Singleton - Never Let Go Sharon Scott - I'm Not Afraid The Poets - Wrapped Around Your Finger Patrinelle Staton - A Little Love Affair The Festivals - Gee Baby The Contours - I Just Can't Stop This Feeling Benny Harper - My Prayer Collette Kelly - City of Fools Benny Latimore - Jolie Sandy Golden - Your Love Is Everything James Lovejoy - Divide and Conquer The Parliaments - My Rainy Day The Originals - Don't Stop Now Second hour - CP Spencer - This Man Needs You The Exciters - Reaching For The Best Nat Augustin - Love Is My Sanctuary The Four Vandals - The Wrong Side Of Town The Concentrations - Man On The Spot Venicia Wilson - This Time I'm Loving You Tahira Jumah - Waterfalls Barbara Pennington - Twenty Four Hours A Day Sidney Barnes - Standing On Solid Ground Lyn Jerrard - Guarantee Of A Lifetime Esjae Gennice - Standing In The Darkness Ronnie Walker - Out Of The Shadows Davinah Edwards - So Far Beyond My Dreaming Tommy Hunt - Nothing But Good Times Nat Augustin - I Found Heaven JJ and Orthea Barnes - Send Some Love Chuck Jackson - All Over The World Frances Nero - Footsteps Following Me Malc Burton Edited May 25, 2009 by Malc Burton
Guest Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) For those who missed it , the show is available until this coming Saturday , by accessing the link below ...... https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00kn...Mix_23_05_2009/ First hour - The Charades - Key To My Happiness Impact - Smile A While Tommy and The Derbys - Don't Play That Role Tommy Tate - If You Ain't Man Enough Martha Starr - Sweet Temptation The Moments - Key To My Happiness Rhetta Hughes - Cry Myself To Sleep The Soul-Sations - Can't Take The Pain LJ Reynolds - Key To The World Margie Singleton - Never Let Go Sharon Scott - I'm Not Afraid The Poets - Wrapped Around Your Finger Patrinelle Staton - A Little Love Affair The Festivals - Gee Baby The Contours - I Just Can't Stop This Feeling Benny Harper - My Prayer Collette Kelly - City of Fools Benny Latimore - Jolie Sandy Golden - Your Love Is Everything James Lovejoy - Divide and Conquer The Parliaments - My Rainy Day The Originals - Don't Stop Now Second hour - CP Spencer - This Man Needs You The Exciters - Reaching For The Best Nat Augustin - Love Is My Sanctuary The Four Vandals - The Wrong Side Of Town The Concentrations - Man On The Spot Venicia Wilson - This Time I'm Loving You Tahira Jumah - Waterfalls Barbara Pennington - Twenty Four Hours A Day Sidney Barnes - Standing On Solid Ground Lyn Jerrard - Guarantee Of A Lifetime Esjae Gennice - Standing In The Darkness Ronnie Walker - Out Of The Shadows Davinah Edwards - So Far Beyond My Dreaming Tommy Hunt - Nothing But Good Times Nat Augustin - I Found Heaven JJ and Orthea Barnes - Send Some Love Chuck Jackson - All Over The World Frances Nero - Footsteps Following Me Malc Burton I forgot to point out that Lyn Jerrard - Guarantee Of A Lifetime , Esjae Gennice - Standing In The Darkness and Ronnie Walker - Out Of The Shadows , were given their first plays after production completion , on the show . Malc Burton Edited May 25, 2009 by Malc Burton
Guest brighton-boris Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) link to 1st hour of levine's show hopefully!! ....brighton boris. (got hour 2 if anyone needs it.) Edited May 25, 2009 by brighton-boris
Becket Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Still think that Martha Starr track comes across as weak and can't understand why people rave about it QoFxx Sorry, but I am one of those peeps that absolutely LOVE TO BITS this 45. Ady used to play this at the 100 club I believe and also Spaghetti Weston has also been playing it more recently. I think Martha Star's stuff on Thelma is great also. Unfortunately Sweet Temptation is a rarity on Charay and very highly prized and priced accordingly. So no real chance of owning it. However, I have a version by Cressa Watson on a compilation album, which is the same; apart from the instrumental break in the middle being missing. Each to their own. Cheers............ Tom. Banbury.
Chalky Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Sorry, but I am one of those peeps that absolutely LOVE TO BITS this 45. Ady used to play this at the 100 club I believe and also Spaghetti Weston has also been playing it more recently. I think Martha Star's stuff on Thelma is great also. Unfortunately Sweet Temptation is a rarity on Charay and very highly prized and priced accordingly. So no real chance of owning it. However, I have a version by Cressa Watson on a compilation album, which is the same; apart from the instrumental break in the middle being missing. Each to their own. Cheers............ Tom. Banbury. I agree, love the record. Martha Starr and Cressa Watson.....one and the same? They sound like the same artist to these cloth ears.
Steve W Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Think that sounds like the unreleased Contours I've been playing two or three years....I first played it at Lifeline and one of the Skeggy Weekenders. Karl Heard been playing it as well, John Poole too, if it's the same one. thanks, for the tape of a record to be found on the floor of the woodward building in detroit it really needs releasing to the masses, I thought I was well past the stage of walking around and mumbling ....need it......got to have it...... i wonder how much you didnt put it up on refosoul about 12 month back Chalky?? I seem to rembember a few soulies going into raptures then
Chalky Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 thanks, for the tape of a record to be found on the floor of the woodward building in detroit it really needs releasing to the masses, I thought I was well past the stage of walking around and mumbling ....need it......got to have it...... i wonder how much you didnt put it up on refosoul about 12 month back Chalky?? I seem to rembember a few soulies going into raptures then no that was Hitsville Chalky. The one in refosoul is the same as Ian's with the digital beeps in it, its the same on most cd's kicking around with it on.
chrissie Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) Sorry, but I am one of those peeps that absolutely LOVE TO BITS this 45. Ady used to play this at the 100 club I believe and also Spaghetti Weston has also been playing it more recently. I think Martha Star's stuff on Thelma is great also. Unfortunately Sweet Temptation is a rarity on Charay and very highly prized and priced accordingly. So no real chance of owning it. However, I have a version by Cressa Watson on a compilation album, which is the same; apart from the instrumental break in the middle being missing. Each to their own. Cheers............ Tom. Banbury. Just my opinion, love Martha usually and this is a good track but it doesn't give me the "tingle" "WOW" factor even if God himself was playing it or however much it is worth. QoFxx Edited May 25, 2009 by chrissie
Ady Croasdell Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 I think what's best about the show is that Ian put some very good and very interesting tracks on there whereas a lot of the soul shows that get onto the BBC nationally seem to only feature the top 500 and a couple of oddities. He's featured a lot of tracks that he loves but weren't his discoveries, so fair play to him for that. The Sharon Scott one in particular is a personal fave that doesn't get the acclaim I think it deserves; apart from from the Peterboro perv.
Pauldonnelly Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) I think what's best about the show is that Ian put some very good and very interesting tracks on there whereas a lot of the soul shows that get onto the BBC nationally seem to only feature the top 500 and a couple of oddities. He's featured a lot of tracks that he loves but weren't his discoveries, so fair play to him for that. The Sharon Scott one in particular is a personal fave that doesn't get the acclaim I think it deserves; apart from from the Peterboro perv. thanks... are there two versions Adi as the one Levine played seems to have some bits missing... Edited May 25, 2009 by PaulDonnelly
Ady Croasdell Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 thanks... are there two versions Adi as the one Levine played seems to have some bits missing... Not that I know of, i did pick up a 10" acetate of it years later but it's the same version. PS I'd love to find Sharon Scott, if anyone has any clues.
TOAD Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Sorry, but I am one of those peeps that absolutely LOVE TO BITS this 45. Ady used to play this at the 100 club I believe and also Spaghetti Weston has also been playing it more recently. I think Martha Star's stuff on Thelma is great also. Unfortunately Sweet Temptation is a rarity on Charay and very highly prized and priced accordingly. So no real chance of owning it. However, I have a version by Cressa Watson on a compilation album, which is the same; apart from the instrumental break in the middle being missing. Each to their own. Cheers............ Tom. Banbury. ITS ON A LP COMP ACE? DEFO UK !!!!!!!!!!
Ady Croasdell Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 ITS ON A LP COMP ACE? DEFO UK !!!!!!!!!! Something like '20 Great Unknown Soul Records' on the Ace budget label Cascade.
Pete S Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 ITS ON A LP COMP ACE? DEFO UK !!!!!!!!!! Yeah it was on something like "20 great unknown soul tracks from the 60's" which came out in about 1987/88 - Ace label, you're right
Pete S Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Something like '20 Great Unknown Soul Records' on the Ace budget label Cascade. Great minds etc, you beat me by 10 seconds
Guest James Trouble Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) I think what's best about the show is that Ian put some very good and very interesting tracks on there whereas a lot of the soul shows that get onto the BBC nationally seem to only feature the top 500 and a couple of oddities. He's featured a lot of tracks that he loves but weren't his discoveries, so fair play to him for that. The Sharon Scott one in particular is a personal fave that doesn't get the acclaim I think it deserves; apart from from the Peterboro perv. Yeah fantastic, playing other people's discoveries off bootlegs while he boasts of having a box of "400 great and unknown monster northern soul", good stuff. I especially liked the part where he talked about the unreleased things being 'rescued off the floor by his friend' and then (I quote) "WE pieced them back together, and here they are!". But these are tracks people have been playing for YEARS, so how does that work? He's a liar, he's a fake and he's a glory hunting ego maniac who's out of touch and out of date. It's great, Ady. What a wonderful way of representing this music to the nation. Brilliant. Edited May 26, 2009 by James Trouble
Pete S Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 I especially liked the part where he talked about the unreleased things being 'rescued off the floor by his friend' and then (I quote) "WE pieced them back together, and here they are!". But these are tracks people have been playing for YEARS, so how does that work? I'll explain WE to you James. Ian was the only one who had the track. The intro was completely destroyed and the entire track had 'bleeps' over it. They recreated the intro from the middle section and got a sound expert in to do equalisation to remove the beeps. So WE is Levine, his producer and a sound angineer. Levine then played it at the Rocket and put it on the Rocket Rarities cd which was given away free. Anyone else who has played it has taken it from that original source, which was Ian Levine's. So he's not a liar...and you're wrong to try and show him up for this one.
Pauldonnelly Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 He's a liar, he's a fake and he's a glory hunting ego maniac who's out of touch and out of date. ffs get off that fence.
Guest James Trouble Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) I'll explain WE to you James. Ian was the only one who had the track. The intro was completely destroyed and the entire track had 'bleeps' over it. They recreated the intro from the middle section and got a sound expert in to do equalisation to remove the beeps. So WE is Levine, his producer and a sound angineer. Levine then played it at the Rocket and put it on the Rocket Rarities cd which was given away free. Anyone else who has played it has taken it from that original source, which was Ian Levine's. So he's not a liar...and you're wrong to try and show him up for this one. If that's the case, I'm wrong. Obviously it seems odd to be showcasing them, if that is the case. Scraping the barrel a bit, don't you think? Where's the 400 if he's not a liar? Why is he playing bootlegs of records other's have broken if he's got these 400? Edited May 26, 2009 by James Trouble
Pete S Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 If that's the case, I'm wrong. Obviously it seems odd to be showcasing them as unknowns, if that is the case. Scraping the barrel a bit, don't you think? Where's the 400 if he's not a liar? Why is he playing bootlegs of records other's have broken if he's got these 400? I don't know and I have no opinion on that really, though he did play me 6 or 7 records down the phone the other day (which I duly noted down and found one within seconds, a second one I found but it was too expensive so already known couldn't find the other 4 or 5)... but I had to say something about The Originals thing because no-one would have ever heard it had it not been for Ian. I'll see if I can get him to record me a cd of some of these unknowns and what he does know is that I will say it's good if it's good and it's crap if it's crap. Then maybe I could post some up or do a podcast????
Guest Dave Turner Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) Just listened to the first hour and thought it a great selection of marvellous enjoyable music which I'll be recording and playing again, and again when I feel like it. I don't generally get in to the bollotics of the soul music scene, each to there own as to music, personalities etc etc. Can't be arsed with it and I've no axe to grind with anyone. I enjoy my soul and people as they appeal to me and tend to stay away from those that don't. I have my own view of Levine's personality but credit where credit is due the guy had an immeasurable impact on the scene. Many of his productions don't do it for me but for me the first hour shows what great taste he's still got (my opinion). Yeah, he can get on my tits with the "I am" "I was" blah, blah. However, Levine is, apart from being a lover of soul music, a business man who in the real world needs to make money. No-one ever made money by dumbing themselves down so I can live with the bigging it up of either himself or his productions. James Lovejoy?????? For me a very good backing that sadly was let down by the vocal. My tuppence Edited May 26, 2009 by Dave Turner
Pauldonnelly Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 I don't know and I have no opinion on that really, though he did play me 6 or 7 records down the phone the other day (which I duly noted down and found one within seconds, a second one I found but it was too expensive so already known couldn't find the other 4 or 5)... but I had to say something about The Originals thing because no-one would have ever heard it had it not been for Ian. I'll see if I can get him to record me a cd of some of these unknowns and what he does know is that I will say it's good if it's good and it's crap if it's crap. Then maybe I could post some up or do a podcast???? agreed.. I heard the Smile by Impact for the first time via his show, manged to get one Sunday for next to nowt...so for that alone thank you.
Ady Croasdell Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 Yeah fantastic, playing other people's discoveries off bootlegs while he boasts of having a box of "400 great and unknown monster northern soul", good stuff. I especially liked the part where he talked about the unreleased things being 'rescued off the floor by his friend' and then (I quote) "WE pieced them back together, and here they are!". But these are tracks people have been playing for YEARS, so how does that work? He's a liar, he's a fake and he's a glory hunting ego maniac who's out of touch and out of date. It's great, Ady. What a wonderful way of representing this music to the nation. Brilliant. But if he was playing other people's discoveries that's good that he's not being ego-centric because he could have easily filled the time in just playing his own discoveries, let alone his own productions and he didn't so I think that's a good thing.
Guest James Trouble Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) But if he was playing other people's discoveries that's good that he's not being ego-centric because he could have easily filled the time in just playing his own discoveries, let alone his own productions and he didn't so I think that's a good thing. That's bllckS and you know it. He did it because all he's sat on is a pile of 80000 shtters, an empty 400 count box and hundreds of dead duck productions that nobody wants to hear, let alone buy. How many boots did he play at The Rocket oldies fest? Edited May 26, 2009 by James Trouble
Pauldonnelly Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 That's bllckS and you know it. He did it because all he's sat on is a pile of 80000 shtters, an empty 400 count box and hundreds of dead duck productions that nobody wants to hear, let alone buy. How many boots did he play at The Rocket oldies fest? That's bllckS and you know it.
Ady Croasdell Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 That's bllckS and you know it. He did it because all he's sat on is a pile of 80000 shtters, an empty 400 count box and hundreds of dead duck productions that nobody wants to hear, let alone buy. How many boots did he play at The Rocket oldies fest? No James that's not bolox. I wouldn't have posted it if I had thought that. Get over it and concentrate on your own stuff.
Markw Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 ten minutes in to the second hour and still no duffers say what you like but the exciters was a classic of its time and the 4 vandals is an amazing 60s sounding record produced in the 80s kev I'm not posting this to contribute to any Ian Levine slagfest but this Four Vandals recording puzzles me. I'm not saying it's good or bad - that's a matter of personal opinion (I happen not to like it, others do and that's their choice). What has puzzled me from day one is people thinking it sounds like it was recorded in the 60s. Frankly, they cannot be very discerning. Whilst it is done in a vaguely 60s style, how anyone with half an ear for a tune think it ever sounded like an actual 60s recording is beyond me. First time I heard it (at a do in Cheltenham, I think) I thought people were having a laugh and it was a wind-up. Then, when the penny dropped and it was clear these people actually believed it to be a 60s original...........................in all honesty, I felt embarrassed for them ...............
Guest James Trouble Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) No James that's not bolox. I wouldn't have posted it if I had thought that. Get over it and concentrate on your own stuff. If you had 400 great and unknown northern soul monsters, like he boasts of having, would you play bootlegs of records other people have made popular? And you know I concentrate on my own stuff.Besides it is my concern when I'm threatened by this monster and his cronies for having an opinion, AND other people have been receiving threats from him when his paranoid head tells him I'm pretending to be someone buying his record packs to set him up. If they were emails to me I'd post them on here, but they are not my emails to post. How many bootlegs did he play at Crossfire? Why is Levine playing carvers of Butch spins on the radio? Edited May 26, 2009 by James Trouble
Simon M Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 Im not here for a Levine slagfest , but I am interested in these 400 OG unknowns ? A false start on the J Lovjoy but hopefully plenty more to come ? Simon
Pauldonnelly Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) You know I concentrate on my own stuff. And besides it is my concern when I'm threatened by this monster and his cronies for having an opinion, AND other people have been receiving threats from him when his paranoid head tells him I'm pretending to be someone buying his record packs to set him up. If they were emails to me I'd post them on here, but they are not my emails to post. How many bootlegs did he play at Crossfire? Why is Levine playing carvers of Butch spins on the radio? Cronies? over to you James. Edited May 26, 2009 by PaulDonnelly
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