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Please please drop this bloke a line and tell him he's selling a bootleg, because his description is the most overblown, pompous and ridiculous I have ever read on ebay. And it is a bootleg of course.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BARBARA-MILLS-Queen-...93%3A2|294%3A50

Wow Pete, that is the most over-the-top description of a boot! The guy is obviously mad laugh.gif

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Message sent. Just asked him if he sells many bootlegs as originals.

I'll not hold my breath waiting for a reply wink.gif

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Thought I would go for the innocent approach.

"Do you know that this is a bootleg copy?"

Simple and to the point I thought laugh.gif

QoFxx

p.s. my ebay user name is qof_original, quite ironic I thought :lol:

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Mike? :lol:

wanted to change my feedback to private Pete - dont want the nosey beggers on here seeing what I am buying :lol: unfortunatley You cant have private if you list to sell ohmy.gif

i've sent him a message:

"that is a seriously bad and misleading discription mate. what you have for sale is a BOOTLEG and only worth the starting price. it is not an 'orig' nor is it 'rare' - you could be conning someone who doesn't know any better, please change the description"

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nice work cookie, thanks for putting fantastic puzzles as backing track to the vid from saturday, how's ya back mate?

Gary: have a look at 'people who dont dance' page 3, in the 'all about the soul' section laugh.gif

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Please please drop this bloke a line and tell him he's selling a bootleg, because his description is the most overblown, pompous and ridiculous I have ever read on ebay. And it is a bootleg of course.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BARBARA-MILLS-Queen-...93%3A2|294%3A50

boxing.gif PETE I HAVE 2 OF THESE IN MY JUNK BOX? MY US ORIGANAL HAS BIG WRITING ON IT LIKE THE ISSUE :- AND MY BOOT THAT I TREASURE IS THE OOTP COPY? I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SMALL PRINT ISSUES, HOWEVER THE UK ISSUE AND DEMO I HAVE NEVER HAD AND DO BELONG IN MY COLLECTION IN ANY CONDITION? IF YOU CAN GET ME ONE, ALSO HAVE LONDON DEMO OR IS IT BRUNSWICK? :lol: DAVE KIL

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Is this not a wind up? It's one of the funniest things I've seen on fleabay. I would love it to be real but....Queen of fools???????

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oNCE HE HAD THIS RECORD, FORGET WHAT IT WAS, and he did the "labels are spotless, pristine, best you'll ever see etc" except you could plainly see initials on the centre, so I pointed this out to him and he said he hadn't noticed it :rolleyes:

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Good god, that must have taken a seriously long time to write such a serious description about such a seriously rare record. This guy is seriously serious!!

I got bored after the first line but was compelled to read on to see how often it could al be repeated...seriously!!!

gary

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Ah, the infamous xxxrecords. They get insane prices for very average Uk records. Also famous for use of CAPITAL LETTERS and putting things in bold...

This is my favourite part of the description:

This is the ORIGINAL Hickory U.S. Promotional 1st Pressing from 1965 and is in GREAT condition!!!! The record is pressed on THICK quality vinyl!!!! This is the ORIGINAL 1965 UK 1st Pressing on the 1st Press Hickory 'Promotional' label and the Cat No is 45-1323.

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Just got a reply back from the seller.

I dont know anything about bootlegs! It has these matrix numbers:

45 - f - 761 then a stamp that looks like 'IVR' or 'MR' then 4103576.

The labels are glossy/shiny, perfectly centred, and the printed text is indented like professional printing. Whats styrene????

Weird thing is that I never even mentioned styrene in my message to him.

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i've sent him a message:

"that is a seriously bad and misleading discription mate. what you have for sale is a BOOTLEG and only worth the starting price. it is not an 'orig' nor is it 'rare' - you could be conning someone who doesn't know any better, please change the description"

above is the message I sent him (no mention of styrene)

here's what i got gack:

"Nope hadnt a clue - how can you tell? The numbers are:

45 - f - 761 then a stamp that looks like 'IVR' or 'MR' then 4103576.

The labels are glossy/shiny, perfectly centred, and the printed text is indented like professional printing. Whats styrene????"

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above is the message I sent him (no mention of styrene)

here's what i got gack:

"Nope hadnt a clue - how can you tell? The numbers are:

45 - f - 761 then a stamp that looks like 'IVR' or 'MR' then 4103576.

The labels are glossy/shiny, perfectly centred, and the printed text is indented like professional printing. Whats styrene????"

Recently a guy on the local junk market near me had one of these for sale saying he wanted £100 pound coz it was so rare. I laughed my knackers off and walked away I wonder if he got the £100 pound :unsure:

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On offer here is a VERY rare single (especially in this condition!!!!) by Barbara Mills called "Queen Of Fools" and is an ORIGINAL 1965 U.S. 1st Pressing on the 1st Press Hickory label!!!! The B side is called '(Make It Last) Take Your Time'. THIS SINGLE IS SERIOUSLY RARE AND VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND!!!! THIS ONE OF THE RAREST 45s ON THE HICKORY LABEL - AND VIRTUALLY NEVER TURNS UP FOR SALE!!!! JUST TRY AND FIND ANOTHER ONE!!!! BACK IN 1965 WHEN THIS 45 WAS FIRST RELEASED, IT ONLY EVER SOLD IN ABSOLUTELY TINY AMOUNTS - AND WAS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY DELETED!!!! AS A RESULT IT IS SERIOUSLY RARE AND INCREDIBLY HARD TO LOCATE TODAY!!!! BUT WHAT MAKES THIS 45 REALLY SPECIAL IS THAT IT IS AN ULTRA RARE 'PROMOTIONAL' 1ST PRESSING!!!! PROMOs WERE 'PRE-RELEASE' 1ST PRESSINGS THAT WERE ONLY EVER PRESSED IN ABSOLUTELY TINY AMOUNTS (NO MORE THAN A 100 AT THE VERY MOST!), SPECIALLY MADE TO BE SENT OUT TO RADIO STATIONS & MUSIC REVIEWERS PRIOR TO THE RELEASE DATE!!!! AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT AT ALL - THAT THIS ULTRA RARE 'PROMOTIONAL COPY' IS FAR FAR RARER THAN ANY NORMAL 1ST PRESSING, AND WAS PRESSED IN FAR FAR SMALLER AMOUNTS!!!! THIS SERIOUSLY RARE 'PROMOTIONAL' 1ST PRESSING IS THE RAREST & EARLIEST 1ST PRESSING OF THIS 45 EVER MADE - AND SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND LIKE THIS!!!! NOT ONLY THAT BUT THIS 45 IS IN GREAT CONDITION AND PLAYS SUPERBLY!!!! JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICTURES!!!! THIS IS THE ORIGINAL 1965 U.S. 'PROMOTIONAL' 1ST PRESSING ON THE 1ST PRESS HICKORY PROMO LABEL, AND PLAIN WHITE SLEEVE!!!! THIS SINGLE IS SERIOUSLY RARE AND SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE TO LOCATE - SO DONT MISS OUT ON THIS AMAZING OPPORTUNITY!!!! This is the ORIGINAL Hickory U.S. Promotional 1st Pressing from 1965 and is in GREAT condition!!!! The record is pressed on THICK quality vinyl!!!! This is the ORIGINAL 1965 UK 1st Pressing on the 1st Press Hickory 'Promotional' label and the Cat No is 45-1323. :unsure:laugh.gif:)laugh.gif

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Just got a reply back from the seller.

Weird thing is that I never even mentioned styrene in my message to him.

Perhaps he's on here?

I just got this reply from him:

"Nope hadnt a clue - how can you tell? The numbers are:

45 - f - 761 then a stamp that looks like 'IVR' or 'MR' then 4103576.

The labels are glossy/shiny, perfectly centred, and the printed text is indented like professional printing."

Think I'll reply just so he's clear!

Cheers,

John.

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Recently a guy on the local junk market near me had one of these for sale saying he wanted £100 pound coz it was so rare. I laughed my knackers off and walked away I wonder if he got the £100 pound laugh.gif

Yeah, like you'd know the difference. :) You shouldn't join in a thread like this, laughing at people and pretending you know the score when you don't. I've seen your record box don't forget.

Which local "junk market" is it btw ?

:unsure:

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Please please drop this bloke a line and tell him he's selling a bootleg, because his description is the most overblown, pompous and ridiculous I have ever read on ebay. And it is a bootleg of course.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BARBARA-MILLS-Queen-...93%3A2|294%3A50

Thing is though Dave....you should have checked his other sales first then you would have seen that Hoagy Lands Stateside he had up for a fiver ohmy.gif:)

Ah, the infamous xxxrecords. They get insane prices for very average Uk records. Also famous for use of CAPITAL LETTERS and putting things in bold...

This is my favourite part of the description:

This is the ORIGINAL Hickory U.S. Promotional 1st Pressing from 1965 and is in GREAT condition!!!! The record is pressed on THICK quality vinyl!!!! This is the ORIGINAL 1965 UK 1st Pressing on the 1st Press Hickory 'Promotional' label and the Cat No is 45-1323.

:thumbup: That bit made me titter too :D

Yeah, like you'd know the difference. :D You shouldn't join in a thread like this, laughing at people and pretending you know the score when you don't. I've seen your record box don't forget.

Which local "junk market" is it btw ?

:unsure:

:thumbup: So you didn't get the £100 then Steve ? laugh.gif

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:g: So you didn't get the £100 then Steve ? :lol:

:lol: You know me too well. :P

Seriously, I'm not sure of threads like this. Obviously Pete is right that its a boot and the guys building it up into something it isn't, and could easily convince some innocent buyer that it is an original due to his blurb, AND as a large scale dealer should know better, but why not challenge him/report him to ebay for selling a boot as an original (rather than selling a boot per se, which happens all the time, usually described as second presses or reissues :D ) yourself, rather than rounding up a lynching party on here. Which, in this case has attracted a Pierpoint who, although an amiable bloke, has joined in the witchhunt as if he's one of the knowledgable in crowd, when a box of boots, Goldmines etc etc shows otherwise. Thats the problem with threads like this, not the comments from people who know the difference.

In another time and place, the bidder would be described as the idiot, caveat emptor etc etc but as the seller is one of "us" he's fair game for ridicule on here.

And no, I'm not pissed :ohmy:

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:lol: You know me too well. :P

Seriously, I'm not sure of threads like this. Obviously Pete is right that its a boot and the guys building it up into something it isn't, and could easily convince some innocent buyer that it is an original due to his blurb, AND as a large scale dealer should know better, but why not challenge him/report him to ebay for selling a boot as an original (rather than selling a boot per se, which happens all the time, usually described as second presses or reissues :D ) yourself, rather than rounding up a lynching party on here. Which, in this case has attracted a Pierpoint who, although an amiable bloke, has joined in the witchhunt as if he's one of the knowledgable in crowd, when a box of boots, Goldmines etc etc shows otherwise. Thats the problem with threads like this, not the comments from people who know the difference.

In another time and place, the bidder would be described as the idiot, caveat emptor etc etc but as the seller is one of "us" he's fair game for ridicule on here.

And no, I'm not pissed :lol:

:g: Thinking mode :D

Understand what you are saying Steve....But I think it was just the fact that the despription was so over the top that made Bob put it up in this instance to be honest....& it probably masks the real issue.... :g: Perhaps that is why the guy does it ?

I'm shooting off to bed now....in case Pete is still up wink.gif You will have wound him right up now :g:

In case I forget...good luck for the weekend :ohmy: Hope they make it....would be nothing but deserved...especially when you take into account the way you went down :P

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As an add on to that question though Steve...got to be honest...if someone sticks their neck out & 'categorically states' in such a fashion that a record is original I can't say I have a lot of sympathy as to how they get ridiculed or dealt with. A decent person just wouldn't do it if they were not sure that the statement was 100% correct.

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g.gif Thinking mode :D

Understand what you are saying Steve....But I think it was just the fact that the despription was so over the top that made Bob put it up in this instance to be honest....& it probably masks the real issue.... :P Perhaps that is why the guy does it ?

I'm shooting off to bed now....in case Pete is still up :D You will have wound him right up now :P

In case I forget...good luck for the weekend :lol: Hope they make it....would be nothing but deserved...especially when you take into account the way you went down :g:

Bob ??????????????? :g: I know you and Pete are close (he put out a "Bogue is missing call - there was one pinned on a tree in my village :P ) but you have your own name for him ? :D

I'm not saying he's wrong in starting the thread, nor are any other of the posters who know what they are on about, but to join in the condemnation as soulontop has done, and knowing what I know, I don't think its on. Thats not Petes fault but I wonder if its the right thing to do. Anyway, watch out for an anti Sheffield United rant in the morning :g:

Congrats on the title and good luck in the CLF. Might have a double on Man Utd and the "waiter" being sectioned in the same week :P Pity Rob Styles isn't a Man U fan. You'd be guaranteed a penalty :lol: (Well, you would if his love child Gerrard played for you :ohmy: )

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Bob ??????????????? :lol: I know you and Pete are close (he put out a "Bogue is missing call - there was one pinned on a tree in my village tongue.gif ) but you have your own name for him ? :D

I'm not saying he's wrong in starting the thread, nor are any other of the posters who know what they are on about, but to join in the condemnation as soulontop has done, and knowing what I know, I don't think its on. Thats not Petes fault but I wonder if its the right thing to do. Anyway, watch out for an anti Sheffield United rant in the morning :g:

Congrats on the title and good luck in the CLF. Might have a double on Man Utd and the "waiter" being sectioned in the same week :P Pity Rob Styles isn't a Man U fan. You'd be guaranteed a penalty :lol: (Well, you would if his love child Gerrard played for you :ohmy: )

:P

:g: Master when I take his slippers in :g:

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:g: Thinking mode :P

Understand what you are saying Steve....But I think it was just the fact that the despription was so over the top that made Bob put it up in this instance to be honest....& it probably masks the real issue.... :g: Perhaps that is why the guy does it ?

I'm shooting off to bed now....in case Pete is still up wink.gif You will have wound him right up now :g:

In case I forget...good luck for the weekend :lol: Hope they make it....would be nothing but deserved...especially when you take into account the way you went down :P

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As an add on to that question though Steve...got to be honest...if someone sticks their neck out & 'categorically states' in such a fashion that a record is original I can't say I have a lot of sympathy as to how they get ridiculed or dealt with. A decent person just wouldn't do it if they were not sure that the statement was 100% correct.

re the edit, we don't know if he's just clueless or intended to decieve, or indeed if he's decent (however conning someone intentionally or not isn't on under any circumstances) but surely an ebay email/question may be enough without a mass protest from SS members. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, but if it attracts posts like the one I've pointed out, from someone who wouldn't know the difference anyway, might it not be the best course of action, as a group of people representing SS?

Roll on Thursday morning. :D

All hate mail by PM please :ohmy: Please address all good luck wishes to Burnley Football Club to either Steve Lane, BrianB, PaulB,Nick Harrison or any other Clarets fans who I have forgotten, via the Championship Play Off final thread. Please mention my name in all insulting/abusive emails to Sheffield United Football Club :lol:

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Perhaps he's on here?

I just got this reply from him:

"Nope hadnt a clue - how can you tell? The numbers are:

45 - f - 761 then a stamp that looks like 'IVR' or 'MR' then 4103576.

The labels are glossy/shiny, perfectly centred, and the printed text is indented like professional printing."

Think I'll reply just so he's clear!

Cheers,

John.

He's sent that out to everyone by the looks of it, I wrote him a nice message explaining about Monarch and delta numbers and the difference between styrene and vinyl.

Genuine mistake, but it was that build up that did it for me.

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re the edit, we don't know if he's just clueless or intended to decieve, or indeed if he's decent (however conning someone intentionally or not isn't on under any circumstances) but surely an ebay email/question may be enough without a mass protest from SS members. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, but if it attracts posts like the one I've pointed out, from someone who wouldn't know the difference anyway, might it not be the best course of action, as a group of people representing SS?

Roll on Thursday morning. :D

All hate mail by PM please :ohmy: Please address all good luck wishes to Burnley Football Club to either Steve Lane, BrianB, PaulB,Nick Harrison or any other Clarets fans who I have forgotten, via the Championship Play Off final thread. Please mention my name in all insulting/abusive emails to Sheffield United Football Club :lol:

Add Veep1296 David Ferguson to Messrs Lane Barkers & Harrison!

Regards

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Which, in this case has attracted a Pierpoint who, although an amiable bloke, has joined in the witchhunt as if he's one of the knowledgable in crowd, when a box of boots, Goldmines etc etc shows otherwise. Thats the problem with threads like this, not the comments from people who know the difference.

I think Bogue thought you were referring to me here Steve.

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