Patto Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 For several years now i have had in my collection a copy of WHIRLPOOL----MARVELOUS RAY----U.S ABNER The record has some like plaster stickers on the TEARS side with the initaials R.J or R.S.The only thing i have been told about this record is that it was part of Richard searlings late casino playlist,but i have not heard it played out anywhere in the last 10 years.I really like the track can anyone tell me owt about it and is it desirable/valueable Cheers--PATTO
TOAD Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 my copy has a CHIPS sticker on it only had a few plays towards the end of the casino theres a pat smith unreleased version on a goldmine cd its slightly differant
George G Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 For several years now i have had in my collection a copy of WHIRLPOOL----MARVELOUS RAY----U.S ABNER The record has some like plaster stickers on the TEARS side with the initaials R.J or R.S.The only thing i have been told about this record is that it was part of Richard searlings late casino playlist,but i have not heard it played out anywhere in the last 10 years.I really like the track can anyone tell me owt about it and is it desirable/valueable Cheers--PATTO She is from Cleveland, and Marvelous Ray is her real name! She cut several 45s for the Cleveland Abner label (not related to any other Abner labels), backed by Billy Wells' band (the guitar playing Billy Wells who had the 45s on Shaker, Sweet Soul, etc). This record turns up from time to time. A slightly different (don't remember how) version was issued on CD. - George
Maria O Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 John Smith wrote a fabulous piece on another forum ..........[click HERE to read] m
Patto Posted May 18, 2009 Author Posted May 18, 2009 John Smith wrote a fabulous piece on another forum ..........[click HERE to read] m Thanks Maria fantastic info there.Think the track is a perfect dancer for today should get more plays.Thanks again for your help
max millward Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks Maria fantastic info there.Think the track is a perfect dancer for today should get more plays.Thanks again for your help HI PATTO TRY PLAYING IT PITCHED UP TO SAY +4 MAX.. GAVE IT AN EARLY SPIN SAT NIGHT!!
Patto Posted May 18, 2009 Author Posted May 18, 2009 HI PATTO TRY PLAYING IT PITCHED UP TO SAY +4 MAX.. GAVE IT AN EARLY SPIN SAT NIGHT!! Will Do Max,but have to say like it as it is.Looks like there are plenty of coppies out there what does it fetch nowadays
Guest Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks Maria fantastic info there.Think the track is a perfect dancer for today should get more plays.Thanks again for your help Sold a vg+ copy a few months back for £125 if that helps at all. IMO it's almost a brilliant record but just lacks a real change of pace or break that would really elevate it to a top, top dancer.
max millward Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Will Do Max,but have to say like it as it is.Looks like there are plenty of coppies out there what does it fetch nowadays YOU MAY BE LUCKY AND PICK ONE UP FOR £80-100 IN EX COND BUT HAVE SEEN IT ON LISTS AT £150 PITCHED UP IT REALLY DOES SOUND LIKE A GIRL!! MAX..
Patto Posted May 18, 2009 Author Posted May 18, 2009 Sold a vg+ copy a few months back for £125 if that helps at all. IMO it's almost a brilliant record but just lacks a real change of pace or break that would really elevate it to a top, top dancer. Yeh Know what you mean it does just need that bit of a boost to make it a cracker,guess thats what Max is trying with the up-pitch.Still think it would be great mid nighter which is maybe how searling saw it.Thanks for the price info mine is a VG+ also
Harry Crosby Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) Yeh Know what you mean it does just need that bit of a boost to make it a cracker,guess thats what Max is trying with the up-pitch.Still think it would be great mid nighter which is maybe how searling saw it.Thanks for the price info mine is a VG+ also Great memories of this from the clifton hall rotherham, think it was BABY WASHINGTON C/U Edited May 18, 2009 by HARRY CROSBY
Pete S Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 Great memories of this from the clifton hall rotherham, think it was BABY WASHINGTON C/U You are right. It was definitely covered as Baby Washington Harry, I posted up a Casino tape from the 7th anniversary where Richard plays it, absolutely fantastic record. I must have had 6 copies of this, always bought it for myself but ended up selling it. That version on the cd is identical as far as I can tell, though there is also an intrumental version of it. And I agree with Tim, doesn't need pitching up.
Shsdave Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 Think £100 seems to be the going rate, great record we used to play it at Solid Hit.....& no doubt will again
Paul-s Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 For several years now i have had in my collection a copy of WHIRLPOOL----MARVELOUS RAY----U.S ABNER The record has some like plaster stickers on the TEARS side with the initaials R.J or R.S.The only thing i have been told about this record is that it was part of Richard searlings late casino playlist,but i have not heard it played out anywhere in the last 10 years.I really like the track can anyone tell me owt about it and is it desirable/valueable Cheers--PATTO Its an old tune. I used to play it at Sheridens, but remember it from Casino.....sold mine for £150 about 4 years back...its a hard to find tune.
Anoraks Corner Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 John Smith wrote a fabulous piece on another forum ..........[click HERE to read] Agree, a fabulous article and well worth a read. (Please note you no longer have to be a member to read most of the sections over on RareSoulForum.co.uk )
Maria O Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 You are right. It was definitely covered as Baby Washington Harry, I posted up a Casino tape from the 7th anniversary where Richard plays it, absolutely fantastic record. I must have had 6 copies of this, always bought it for myself but ended up selling it. That version on the cd is identical as far as I can tell, though there is also an intrumental version of it. And I agree with Tim, doesn't need pitching up. A lady came up to me at York Soul Club a while back and said how much she enjoyed me playing Baby Washington's "Tired Of Running Round In Circles". I said that it must have been the next DJ because I didn't play anything by her. The conversation went back and forth for a bit and I could tell my arguing was frustrating her, because she was so sure of herself and even knew which songs it fell between. ...It was then that it dawned on me what it was and that it might have been covered up, so I quickly checked nearby and then said back to her: " I'm so sorry - I'm foreign, so I only know my records by their real names" . (She didn't seem to believe me when I explained, so I grabbed an English man to confirm what it was called.) ....Anyway, it made me laugh. Each to their own, but I'm not a big fan of changing pitch, although I have dabbled. Even a bit feels like you may as well put it on your computer and make a remix. It's almost like cheating to make a record liked more -playbox desperation perhaps? ...besides, there's something pure about playing a record the way it was intended. m
TOAD Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 You are right. It was definitely covered as Baby Washington Harry, I posted up a Casino tape from the 7th anniversary where Richard plays it, absolutely fantastic record. I must have had 6 copies of this, always bought it for myself but ended up selling it. That version on the cd is identical as far as I can tell, though there is also an intrumental version of it. And I agree with Tim, doesn't need pitching up. pete the cd version is differant from the 45
Pete S Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 pete the cd version is differant from the 45 How's it different?
TOAD Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 How's it different? IVE HAD THE 45 SINCE 1982 THE PAT SMITH ON THE CD,WHICH IS THE ONE IN REFSOUL THATS WRONG, HAS THAT WIERD SOUND AT THE BEGINING IT LIKE AN EXTRA BIT.
Pete S Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 IVE HAD THE 45 SINCE 1982 THE PAT SMITH ON THE CD,WHICH IS THE ONE IN REFSOUL THATS WRONG, HAS THAT WIERD SOUND AT THE BEGINING IT LIKE AN EXTRA BIT. But the one in refosoul as Marvelous Ray uploaded by ME is off the vinyl, that copy I sold to Max about 4 3/4 years ago
Chalky Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 IVE HAD THE 45 SINCE 1982 THE PAT SMITH ON THE CD,WHICH IS THE ONE IN REFSOUL THATS WRONG, HAS THAT WIERD SOUND AT THE BEGINING IT LIKE AN EXTRA BIT. Pretty sure Marvelous Ray said that it isn't Pat Smith but her vocal on the unissued one.
Guest peter burke Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 John Smith wrote a fabulous piece on another forum ..........[click HERE to read] m Best thing I've read on SS for ages Maria. Petex
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