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Posted

The Alfie Davison 12"

Curtis 12

Both spring to mind but are you asking for sounds that came out on 12" only as this would make them rarer with no seven available.

Just 12" 'Holy Grails'. Don't matter if they got a 7" release as the 12" is normally a different mix anyway.

Good call on the Alfie Davison, far better version IMO but wouldn't call Curtis a holy grail as not that rare.

Posted

What was the first 12" single...Was it Daddy Cool by Boney M? :(

reckon it might have been t connection do what you wanna do, if it isn't ,it's famous for something like first to sell more than the 7 or something

Posted

What was the first 12" single...Was it Daddy Cool by Boney M?
:)

Nah............................... it was "Ten Percent" by Double Exsposure (Salsoul)

Dunno 'bout "holy grail" 12s ...............but my "dream" 12 would be Charles Johnson "Never Had A L ove So Good"........y'know during the fade when he
really
starts singing ? Another couple of minutes of
that
pleases
:D:(

Cheers Paul

Posted (edited)

Was hoping no one would have remembered that thread :):thumbup:

Right about the revisit though, great thread.

I did one , about four years ago :D . The rest are :(

Edited by Simon M
Posted (edited)

Charles Johnson as a 12"?? What a great idea!!
:(

Theres one out there I"m sure................................................an' it"s got my name on it
:)

Cheers Paul

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Guest soulboy
Posted

Lovin' ls Really My Game-Brainstorm..... Holy Grail or not ......So much better than the 7" :(

what sort of money is it worth ?

Posted (edited)

For me its

Al Mason - Good Lovin' - Al & The Kidd

Hotliners - Cold Hearted - Budweiser

Also quite intrigued about Wes Black - I Feel Good (Feeling Good) - Highland. Its twice as long as the 7" on Star West which states that its part 2, so what does part 1 sound like? Need the 12" to find out. :D I wonder if I'll Always Be In Love With You is longer as well?

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Nah............................... it was "Ten Percent" by Double Exsposure (Salsoul)

Dunno 'bout "holy grail" 12s ...............but my "dream" 12 would be Charles Johnson "Never Had A L ove So Good"........y'know during the fade when he
really
starts singing ? Another couple of minutes of
that
pleases
:thumbsup::D

Cheers Paul

Spot on! A 12" of Charles Johnson featuring the full take unedited take of the 7" would be my personal holy grail.

Bit offtopic: I understand the Alston/TK tapes are all accessable, has any record company shark ever tried to find out if they are tapes of the recording session of Charles Johnson?

Posted

For me its

Al Mason - Good Lovin' - Al & The Kidd

Hotliners - Cold Hearted - Budweiser

Also quite intrigued about Wes Black - I Feel Good (Feeling Good) - Highland. Its twice as long as the 7" on Star West which states that its part 2, so what does part 1 sound like? Need the 12" to find out. :D I wonder if I'll Always Be In Love With You is longer as well?

Think I've got 1 tucked away somewhere, anybody after it ?


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Bill Brandon " Space age lover" :thumbsup:

Nah, not rare Simon. :thumbsup: I got one of these off Soul Bowl's disco list for £1.25 in 1982 etc etc etc etc etc and Cunnie has a cd of a new remix by MC Trouble, which he played to me down the phone only yesterday. Plus its not on his wants list so it can't be that hard :D

:thumbsup:

Seriously, I always loved this when Richard played it. Does he still have it ? If not, who does ?

Can there be a 12 rarer than this ?

Posted (edited)

Nah, not rare Simon. :thumbsup: I got one of these off Soul Bowl's disco list for £1.25 in 1982 etc etc etc etc etc and Cunnie has a cd of a new remix by MC Trouble, which he played to me down the phone only yesterday. Plus its not on his wants list so it can't be that hard :D

:thumbsup:

Seriously, I always loved this when Richard played it. Does he still have it ? If not, who does ?

Can there be a 12 rarer than this ?

Super Dooper Rare hey ? I think Searling still has it , well so Sam says, its on his scribble pad as a want :thumbsup:

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Guest wrightypaul36
Posted

what sort of money is it worth ?

40 QUID IN THE RECORD COLLECTOR.I SOLD ONE LAST YEAR ON EBAY FOR ABOUT 8 I THINK.

WRIGHTY.

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Charles Johnson as a 12"?? What a great idea!! :D

Charles Johnson was the first one that sprang to my mind. I saw one for sale recently, can't remember where... Manship's site?

Neil Jones (BurySoul) might be the man to ask, he's got one of those, and a brainstorm 12" and the Eddie Holman track on 12' too (clear vinyl thing he's

had since 1812 or something like that!)

I remember Neil playing the brainstorm 12' at a golbourne nighter many years ago and then a few of them trying to dance all the way through it....

(was a good long while ago! :thumbsup: )

Jayne.x.

Posted

Charles Johnson was the first one that sprang to my mind. I saw one for sale recently, can't remember where... Manship's site?

Neil Jones (BurySoul) might be the man to ask, he's got one of those, and a brainstorm 12" and the Eddie Holman track on 12' too (clear vinyl thing he's

had since 1812 or something like that!)

I remember Neil playing the brainstorm 12' at a golbourne nighter many years ago and then a few of them trying to dance all the way through it....

(was a good long while ago! :D )

Jayne.x.

Bill Harris and Charles Johnson 12'' are myths :thumbsup:

Posted (edited)

Bill Harris and Charles Johnson 12'' are myths :thumbsup:

bought it from rob grant at birmingham hilton 2004.. I've got a clip of it on my phone.. I've just played it to make sure

I'm not thinking of the wrong record and it's deffo Charles johnson...

:D

maybe I'm wrong...

Jayne.x

Edited by Miss BurySoul
Posted (edited)

bought it from rob grant at birmingham hilton 2004.. I've got a clip of it on my phone.. I've just played it to make sure

I'm not thinking of the wrong record and it'd deffo Charles johnson...

:thumbsup:

maybe I'm wrong...

Jayne.x

Dozey cow!.... But don't you think charles johnson and Mark VI sound so alike? :D

I was thinking of Mark VI - if you can't tell me something good, which was the 12' purchased at birm.

I'll get me coat! :thumbsup:

Actually, a touch of last minute research shows me that expansion did put charles johnson out on a 12 in 2001 so I wasn't going daft.

Jayne.x :thumbsup: .

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Posted

Actually, a touch of last minute research shows me that expansion did put charles johnson out on a 12 in 2001 so I wasn't going daft.

Jayne.x :D .

Which mix did they put on the 12"? The original 7" mix?

Posted

Which mix did they put on the 12"? The original 7" mix?

not sure but I suspect so..

I'm still convinced I've heard a longer version. Maybe that's what too much vodka does to me! :D

Jayne.x

Posted

Spot on! A 12" of Charles Johnson featuring the full take unedited take of the 7" would be my personal holy grail.

Bit offtopic: I understand the Alston/TK tapes are all accessable, has any record company shark ever tried to find out if they are tapes of the recording session of Charles Johnson?

I should imagine theres quite a few interesting tapes apart from Mr Johnson....................Lew Kirton, Betty Wright etc

Dont suppose Kent /Ace would be interested ........................or would they? Tone ? Ady ?

Which mix did they put on the 12"? The original 7" mix?

Its the 7 inch mix Benji..............................as far as I know there is no 12, as I said it would be my
dream
12 to find
thumbup.gif

Cheers Paul

Guest east rob
Posted

idris mohammad- heaven could be like this. always pricey on 12" for some reason.

Guest soulboy
Posted

40 QUID IN THE RECORD COLLECTOR.I SOLD ONE LAST YEAR ON EBAY FOR ABOUT 8 I THINK.

WRIGHTY.

iv got a copy on miracle is that worth anything............cant stand it to be honest

Posted

iv got a copy on miracle is that worth anything............cant stand it to be honest

Not really

It's not worth a great deal on Tabu to be honest, about 20 quid

12"s and 7"s are completely different markets

There are some "holy grail" 12"s that are very common on 7": Brainstorm - We're on our way home, and Norman Connors - Once I've been there, are two.

The Mark IV is a different mix to the 7"

12"s sound, sonically, much better than 7"s (and LP tracks), which is why they are generally more sought after from a DJ perspective.

The Jackie Stoudemire is a great track BTW and has been "reissued" recently. I believe most of the TAP stuff goes for money.

Quite a few 7"s have been "reissued" as 12"s, and I can't vouch for their authenticity, most noteably, The Gifted Four on Ham Sem, Family of Eve on Full Sail and recently the great Midnight Express on Tri Fire.

I posted a while ago about a 12" release of SPG - loveland. Does any one have any info about this?

I love 12"s

Richard

Guest biggray1
Posted

The Jackie Stoudemire is a great track BTW and has been "reissued" recently. can anyone post info on this reissue please. Graham

Guest Awake 502
Posted

idris mohammad- heaven could be like this. always pricey on 12" for some reason.

Really ? have a 12" demo of this somewhere didn't think it was that rare...


Posted

The Jackie Stoudemire is a great track BTW and has been "reissued" recently. can anyone post info on this reissue please. Graham

Only the track "Invisible Wind" has been reissued on 12":

https://www.numerogroup.com/catalog_detail.php?uid=00318

The rest of the tracks on her original TAP 12" along with a great unissued tune can be found on the TAP compilation CD/double-LP:

https://www.numerogroup.com/catalog_detail.php?uid=00331

I personally prefer Arnie Love's version of "Invisible Wind", much better vocals and more punch compared to Jackie Stoudemire's version.

Posted

I've seen both versions but never heard the Arnie Love. I just assumed (wrongly obviously) that they were different releases of the same record. There is another great Arnie Love record the name of which escapes me (also on tap I believe)

As to who pays a lot for Independent 12"s? Well quite a few people it would seem. I've recently seen lots of 12"s go for what I would consider much more (up to twice in some cases) than their "book price". There is also a "healthy" (if that's the right word) market in "reissues" or bootlegs, some very convincing especially if buying from ebay, so beware.

Threads like this make me realise how insular the rare soul scene can be and once you think you've got a bit of knowledge behind you, bang a load more different music appears.

I love it

Richard

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