Gasher Posted May 15, 2009 Posted May 15, 2009 Looking for info on this ...also seen it at silly pices too but Id like one if its sensibly priced:unsure: gasher
Guest Posted May 15, 2009 Posted May 15, 2009 Looking for info on this ...also seen it at silly pices too but Id like one if its sensibly priced:unsure: gasher Can't remember the year but price wise I've sold 3 copies in the last six months for between £200-£250. At one point it was hitting the £3-400 mark on eBay but does seem to have settled down around the £200 mark (sorry not gone one for sale at moment but try Sebastian on here, he might be able to help ya).
Gasher Posted May 15, 2009 Author Posted May 15, 2009 thanks ..will try him although Im sure sebastian will read it if he has one. gasher
Sebastian Posted May 16, 2009 Posted May 16, 2009 It was released in 1971. Seems to have been unknown to most people up until about 12-18 months ago. A year ago I managed to find 4 copies of it. I kept one, traded one and sold two for $460 (August 2008) and $513 (October 2008). I only have my own personal copy at the moment and it's not for sale. As has been stated previously, it does seem to have dropped a bit in price and a copy sold on eBay about a week ago for £205 ($310), but having said that... the dollar/pound ratio has changed quite a bit since August 2008, so it actually hasn't undergone that big of a change pricewise. Two good sides in my opinion.
boba Posted May 16, 2009 Posted May 16, 2009 It was released in 1971. Seems to have been unknown to most people up until about 12-18 months ago. A year ago I managed to find 4 copies of it. I kept one, traded one and sold two for $460 (August 2008) and $513 (October 2008). I only have my own personal copy at the moment and it's not for sale. As has been stated previously, it does seem to have dropped a bit in price and a copy sold on eBay about a week ago for £205 ($310), but having said that... the dollar/pound ratio has changed quite a bit since August 2008, so it actually hasn't undergone that big of a change pricewise. Two good sides in my opinion. if you look at the names on the 45, I'm pretty sure the record is actually an anomaly in that it's this white country group, plus I have one of the capitol 45s and it is soulish (and has the same names as on the 45) https://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...wzfyxqu5ldhe~T1
Sebastian Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) I'm pretty sure the record is actually an anomaly in that it's this white country group, https://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...wzfyxqu5ldhe~T1 Are you sure? I don't think so. The members in These Vizitors on CAPITOL who later released records as Curtis Brothers on POLYDOR in 1976 were Michael Curtis, Rick Dew-Curtis, Tom Curtis and Thom Mooney. The CAPITOL 45 by These Vizitors from 1968 has got Richard Curtis and Michael Curtis as songwriters on both sides. These guys were at different times based in Indiana, New York and Florida. Both sides of the Curtis, The Brothers 45 on BELL are written by Anthony Curtis and Lonnie Lee Tolbert. Both sides are published by Anthony Curtis Publishing (based in California). Confusingly there actually was a 45 credited to Curtis Brothers on CAPITOL released in 1968 ("Um Um Good" b/w "Another One Of Those Days"). Both sides are written by Curtis/Tolbert and the vocals on this record sounds like the vocals on the BELL 45 so I think it's safe to say that the CAPITOL 45 are by the same group of people. Anthony Curtis and Lonnie Lee Tolbert also wrote "What Makes A Dance (Feel So Good)", "Player Play On" and "Tomorrow Is A Brand New Day" for Nooney Rickett. The Nooney Rickett 45s on IT are actually credited as being "Curtis Bros. Prod". The IT label was based in California. In 1969 they wrote "One Soft Night" for Nancy Wilson (CAPITOL 2555). In their BMI files Anthony Curtis and Lonnie Lee Tolbert share the writing credits on tunes with the following titles as well: "Don't Look At Me Like That" "Guiding Star" "I'm Coming Back Strong" "One Day You'll Pay" "Youngblood" But I don't know if any artists ever recorded and released those tunes. If these titles sound familiar to anyone of you, please let me know. It would be great to be able to paint a full picture of what these guys were involved in. Edited May 17, 2009 by Sebastian
Guest Fabsoul69 Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) Posted this tune nearly two years ago (August 2007) on youtube & Fryer-Mantis, so some people should have got a little heads up... Quite funny, that it´s currently became the most played clip ever on the Berlin "Soul Inn"- website.... It was released in 1971. Seems to have been unknown to most people up until about 12-18 months ago. A year ago I managed to find 4 copies of it. I kept one, traded one and sold two for $460 (August 2008) and $513 (October 2008). I only have my own personal copy at the moment and it's not for sale. As has been stated previously, it does seem to have dropped a bit in price and a copy sold on eBay about a week ago for £205 ($310), but having said that... the dollar/pound ratio has changed quite a bit since August 2008, so it actually hasn't undergone that big of a change pricewise. Two good sides in my opinion. Edited May 21, 2009 by Fabsoul69
Guest newone Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 Posted this tune nearly two years ago (August 2007) on youtube & Fryer-Mantis, so some people should have got a little heads up... well its on manship auction now so price will only go up
Guest sigher the gutter snype Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) have had a couple of these, a few years ago, always thought it was good but a bit to funky for some of the heads on here, god how wrong i was... funny but back then as i recall most people kept mentioning the flip??? struggled to sell my second copy..but does turn up in my opinion sure you will bag one gasher... and not at £200 plus Edited May 18, 2009 by sigher the gutter snype
Cover-up Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 well its on manship auction now so price will only go up Lucky my copy arrived in the post this morning then... This tune is going to go massive over the next few months.
boba Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Are you sure? I don't think so. The members in These Vizitors on CAPITOL who later released records as Curtis Brothers on POLYDOR in 1976 were Michael Curtis, Rick Dew-Curtis, Tom Curtis and Thom Mooney. The CAPITOL 45 by These Vizitors from 1968 has got Richard Curtis and Michael Curtis as songwriters on both sides. These guys were at different times based in Indiana, New York and Florida. Both sides of the Curtis, The Brothers 45 on BELL are written by Anthony Curtis and Lonnie Lee Tolbert. Both sides are published by Anthony Curtis Publishing (based in California). Confusingly there actually was a 45 credited to Curtis Brothers on CAPITOL released in 1968 ("Um Um Good" b/w "Another One Of Those Days"). Both sides are written by Curtis/Tolbert and the vocals on this record sounds like the vocals on the BELL 45 so I think it's safe to say that the CAPITOL 45 are by the same group of people. Anthony Curtis and Lonnie Lee Tolbert also wrote "What Makes A Dance (Feel So Good)", "Player Play On" and "Tomorrow Is A Brand New Day" for Nooney Rickett. The Nooney Rickett 45s on IT are actually credited as being "Curtis Bros. Prod". The IT label was based in California. In 1969 they wrote "One Soft Night" for Nancy Wilson (CAPITOL 2555). In their BMI files Anthony Curtis and Lonnie Lee Tolbert share the writing credits on tunes with the following titles as well: "Don't Look At Me Like That" "Guiding Star" "I'm Coming Back Strong" "One Day You'll Pay" "Youngblood" But I don't know if any artists ever recorded and released those tunes. If these titles sound familiar to anyone of you, please let me know. It would be great to be able to paint a full picture of what these guys were involved in. I have the capitol 45 you mention from 1968 so I was assuming that it was the same capitol group mentioned in the all music article. I guess there were two curtis bros on capitol then. thanks for clearing that up.
Marc Forrest Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 This tune is going to go massive over the next few months. Its been so already since last year...nearly every DJ in Germany has a copy Gasher, try puresoul.de maybe Thorsten still has a copy somewhere
Cover-up Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 Its been so already since last year...nearly every DJ in Germany has a copy I was meaning, this record could go massive, even outside germany...
Guest indiana45s Posted May 18, 2009 Posted May 18, 2009 I was meaning, this record could go massive, even outside germany... These Vizitors and Nooney Rickett were both originally from Indiana. Is there a deep connection?
Gasher Posted May 18, 2009 Author Posted May 18, 2009 dont want to know the trivia its not a feckin quiz somebody just sell me one FFS gasher These Vizitors and Nooney Rickett were both originally from Indiana. Is there a deep connection?
Sebastian Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 These Vizitors and Nooney Rickett were both originally from Indiana. Is there a deep connection? As far as I understand the Curtis brothers in These Vizitors (Richard, Michael and Tom) are not the same Curtis brothers that were involved with the Nooney Rickett releases (Anthony Curtis).
Benji Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 Its been so already since last year...nearly every DJ in Germany has a copy A bit of generalisation, don't you think? Maybe every DJ in Hamburg or Berlin has a copy but I don't know of any DJ/collector in Munich having a copy. But on the other hand the Munich lot is always way behind the times within the german scene. I mean we still play lots of R&B
Guest Fabsoul69 Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Not true - you should ask Florian Keller... A bit of generalisation, don't you think? Maybe every DJ in Hamburg or Berlin has a copy but I don't know of any DJ/collector in Munich having a copy. But on the other hand the Munich lot is always way behind the times within the german scene. I mean we still play lots of R&B Edited May 19, 2009 by Fabsoul69
Souljazera Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 great record....both sides folks in leeds love it as well...does that make them funky??? or funny ???
Benji Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 Not true - you should ask Florian Keller... Oops, haven't seen Flori for a long time now so I stand corrected. Even a Munich DJ has a copy. Marc is correct, there are copies of this record in each and every major city in Germany
Marc Forrest Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 .. Marc is correct,.. Yep, told you so before Marc
Marc Forrest Posted June 1, 2009 Posted June 1, 2009 currently up on ebay, seller won`t take paypal so it may go cheap despite being mint minus...
Mike Shawe Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) JM's auction copy just sold for £288, looked particularly scruffy replete with 'h2o' label damage & wear. Edited June 3, 2009 by mikeshawe
Dave Pinch Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 currently up on ebay, seller won`t take paypal so it may go cheap despite being mint minus... THE ONE ON EBAY HAD A $300 START AS WELL............DID IT SELL. ALL ITS WORTH IMVHO DAVE
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