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THE STAR-studded career of an East Lancashire DJ who shared a bill with The Supremes and Edwin Starr has been chronicled in print.

Since making his debut at Burnley Mecca in 1969, aged just 16, John 'Ginger' Taylor has performed in venues across the globe.

But the 55-year-old from Todmorden is probably best known from his time at clubs in Blackburn, Hyndburn, Burnley and Pendle.

Now the Northern Soul fanatic's adventures have been documented in a new book.

The book, On the Right Track with DJ Ginger Taylor, has been written by 58-year-old Northern Soul aficionado Rob McKeever.

https://www.burnleycitizen.co.uk/news/43609...ed_in_new_book/

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Sounds like something that belongs in the Khazi to me.... hung on a hook ala Steptoe and Son.

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Am I the only one that thought John 'Ginger' Taylor was called Ray?

isn't that his middle name?.

Jayne.x.

Guest familytree
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Whats up with Ginger... am i missing something?... i always have a laugh with him when we meet out... oooh the politics! i never get to know anything, too busy having fun! think i will buy the book.... is that a bad thing to do??... fill me in x

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Whats up with Ginger... am i missing something?... i always have a laugh with him when we meet out... oooh the politics! i never get to know anything, too busy having fun! think i will buy the book.... is that a bad thing to do??... fill me in x

Hiya,

You're not missing anything m'dear - Everyone knows him as Ray but when you click on that link, the journalist calls him John.

My initial thought was 'who wants to read a book about Ginger' he's a normal bloke!. but when you think about some of the artist's he's met and some of the stories he'll have to tell, I reckon curiousity will get me and I'll give it a read too. :wicked:

sorry if I'm not making sense now, I'm a pint of wine into the evening. :thumbsup:

Jayne.x

Guest familytree
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Hiya,

You're not missing anything m'dear - Everyone knows him as Ray but when you click on that link, the journalist calls him John.

My initial thought was 'who wants to read a book about Ginger' he's a normal bloke!. but when you think about some of the artist's he's met and some of the stories he'll have to tell, I reckon curiousity will get me and I'll give it a read too. :wicked:

sorry if I'm not making sense now, I'm a pint of wine into the evening. :thumbsup:

Jayne.x

haha to the pint of wine jayne! lol ... he will have a story to tell im sure... dont we all for that matter!.. i may crack on with one myself? :) x

Guest Nick Harrison
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... dont we all for that matter!.. i may crack on with one myself? :thumbsup: x

Your's are probably more intresting - There's a large few on here who will find the title a laugh as well.

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Guest veep1296
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Am I the only one that thought John 'Ginger' Taylor was called Ray?

JOHN RAYMOND TAYLOR

I use Raymond.

DF

Guest sarahleen
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er ? todmorden in "east lancashire" :lol:

as ginger would probably tell you

todmorden is in yorkshire

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Good luck to the guy if it earns him a few quid- however after deducting 300 images from the 126 pages it doesn't seem like we're gonna be left with much :lol:


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Oh dear..how ridiculously sad! :lol:

???????????????????????

why?

what a ridiculously sad statement to make - unless of course you have read it and this is your review :rolleyes:

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it matters not what you think of anyone who wishes to lay his life bare in the pages of a book.....as much as they are a subject of derision the chaps who were there in the beginning have had a huge input into the scene....you cannot deny they must have lived a fascinating life and met many people who we will never meet...........and i have never read a book about "northern soul" i dont know why but hey i may just read this one....

oh and ps...its "pope" john ray....sorry ginger :rolleyes:

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it matters not what you think of anyone who wishes to lay his life bare in the pages of a book.....as much as they are a subject of derision the chaps who were there in the beginning have had a huge input into the scene....you cannot deny they must have lived a fascinating life and met many people who we will never meet...........and i have never read a book about "northern soul" i dont know why but hey i may just read this one....

oh and ps...its "pope" john ray....sorry ginger :rolleyes:

Not denying the input ,and what scene are you talking bout re the beginning,is it the nothern soul scene up to when? Cant remember Ginger breaking many sounds to be honest ,could be wrong on that score however?Might be handy to name a few! Does someone get kudos and respect on this scene if there have met many artistes ? IM sure many have a tale to tell in that respect!!

It would be hypocritical to judge somethinhg i have not read,however Im not running out to get this one immediatly till a bit feedback comes through.

ID like a good read from Manship,John Anderson or someone like Butch to be honest people who have really sort the vinyl!!!!

BAZ A :lol:

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Not denying the input ,and what scene are you talking bout re the beginning,is it the nothern soul scene up to when? Cant remember Ginger breaking many sounds to be honest ,could be wrong on that score however?Might be handy to name a few! Does someone get kudos and respect on this scene if there have met many artistes ? IM sure many have a tale to tell in that respect!!

It would be hypocritical to judge somethinhg i have not read,however Im not running out to get this one immediatly till a bit feedback comes through.

ID like a good read from Manship,John Anderson or someone like Butch to be honest people who have really sort the vinyl!!!!

BAZ A :lol:

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It would be hypocritical to judge somethinhg i have not read,however Im not running out to get this one immediatly till a bit feedback comes through.

does that mean if butch buys it you will also :rolleyes::lol::lol::lol:

:no::D:lol:

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It would be hypocritical to judge somethinhg i have not read,however Im not running out to get this one immediatly till a bit feedback comes through.

does that mean if butch buys it you will also :rolleyes::lol::lol::lol:

:no::D:lol:

Think it might be a better read and as for your sheep comment come on ,thats a bit over the top isnt it and a tad disrespectful.

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Observation, book due out and already being slagged off, bit like the film and numerous other subjects, topics and threads, as I've said before if you don't like something then don't subscibe to it, a trait of this scene it would seem is everyone likes to be a face, everyone likes to have an opinion and have little or no thought for other peoples feelings, glad I'm out of it to be honest, pontificating bollocks on the whole.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

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Not denying the input ,and what scene are you talking bout re the beginning,is it the nothern soul scene up to when? Cant remember Ginger breaking many sounds to be honest ,could be wrong on that score however?Might be handy to name a few! Does someone get kudos and respect on this scene if there have met many artistes ? IM sure many have a tale to tell in that respect!!

It would be hypocritical to judge somethinhg i have not read,however Im not running out to get this one immediatly till a bit feedback comes through.

ID like a good read from Manship,John Anderson or someone like Butch to be honest people who have really sort the vinyl!!!!

BAZ A :lol:

met many people i said not artistes we have all met a few of those for gods sake..i think you took that from the newspaper article there is more to it than the "big faces" other people own great records ya know :rolleyes: .......does one have to break new sounds to be a part of the "northern soul" scenes history?...i just hate it when someone or something is condemned without a fair trial.....gets me the same way with people who dont know a record and automatically assume its shite...reserve your judgement until you have sampled what is on offer is all i am saying......

cookie :lol:

point 1 ofcourse other people own great records,im from the north east where collectors have plugged away for years without regognition.Sercondly why should you round on my comments a tad presumptious thinking that i I equate big faces with discovering records ,quite the contray to be honest,and been part of the scene and active throughout the eightties where lots of records wee discovered by good freinds and people without the razamataz sourrounding them demonstrates a slight contradiction. Alot of djs own importance has been embelised in the books,cds,kudos etc while missing the whole point ,its about the artistes not the djs.

I mention Butch as an example of someone whos really got his hands dirty in the US which surely from a collectors point of view is of more interest to vinyl entusiasts.

I dont assume the books shite cookie f--k me where did that come from,I dont think Ginger is shite also,however if he is a big name and lives by that perhaps he should accept constructive critisism .Nothing more nothing less,im not a star gazer also,dont get that at all lol/

BAZ A :lol:

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Observation, book due out and already being slagged off, bit like the film and numerous other subjects, topics and threads, as I've said before if you don't like something then don't subscibe to it, a trait of this scene it would seem is everyone likes to be a face, everyone likes to have an opinion and have little or no thought for other peoples feelings, glad I'm out of it to be honest, pontificating bollocks on the whole.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Point taken Mark im not a face im a north east record colector nothing more nothing less,never cared for the egos,i express an opinon that i will not rush out to buy a book and then im public enemy no 1 ,otthers made the comments also.Just think from a collectors point of view other material may be more intersting.

BAZ A :rolleyes:

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I dont assume the books shite cookie f--k me where did that come from,I dont think Ginger is shite also,however if he is a big name and lives by that perhaps he should accept constructive critisism .

and therein lies the crux of the matter...and the futility of people pooh poohing a book not yet released..........

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I dont assume the books shite cookie f--k me where did that come from,I dont think Ginger is shite also,however if he is a big name and lives by that perhaps he should accept constructive critisism .

and therein lies the crux of the matter...and the futility of people pooh poohing a book not yet released..........

The crux of which matter? The fact that a midlde aged dj [soul fanatic gets a press release advertising his forthcoming book?whos kidding who?]or somewhere because i make a comment about excersising my commercial choice not to rush to waterstones to buy one persons recollection of a northern soul scene long gone [i become a judgemental mother----er!!!/ :rolleyes:

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my whole point is criticism of a thing that nobody has laid eyes on...as i said earlier ..... ie-ive got a record here you've never heard of ....trust me its crap......are you gonna take my word for it or form your own opinion?...one mans sh*t is another mans ( or womans lol ) toothpaste....and isnt nostalgia ( ok i draw the line at retro clothing ) all part and parcel of things and you proved this yourself baz...i had friends in the 80's etc etc ..maybe people want to remember back in the day when a pie was tuppence..if the book is crap i will make no bones about saying its crap but i cant make a judgement on something ive not read.......

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my whole point is criticism of a thing that nobody has laid eyes on...as i said earlier ..... ie-ive got a record here you've never heard of ....trust me its crap......are you gonna take my word for it or form your own opinion?...one mans sh*t is another mans ( or womans lol ) toothpaste....and isnt nostalgia ( ok i draw the line at retro clothing ) all part and parcel of things and you proved this yourself baz...i had friends in the 80's etc etc ..maybe people want to remember back in the day when a pie was tuppence..if the book is crap i will make no bones about saying its crap but i cant make a judgement on something ive not read.......

Fair dos im not making a judgement im making a sweeping generalisation :rolleyes:

BAZ A :lol:

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Your's are probably more intresting - There's a large few on here who will find the title a laugh as well.

  • Ginger's all time personal fave is Right Track
  • He is one of the most genuine DJs on the scene
  • He was there in the beginning and is still there
  • How can you slag a book you haven't read, and a bloke you haven't met

As someone rightly said earlier, if its not for you, don't buy it. He had a lot of time for my lad when he was starting out on the scene, and still asks about him.

Thanks,

Brian

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Thing is, it's not Ginger's book is it?

It's a book about him written by somebody that must want to do it, for whatever reason.

I'm sure Ginger is flattered (and why not) and will obviously co-operate in the process but is anybody on here willing to say that they would expect somebody to turn down such an opportunity, no matter how limited the appeal may be.

He's a good bloke and on that basis alone, good luck to him and the author.


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Fair dos im not making a judgement im making a sweeping generalisation laugh.gif

BAZ A biggrin.gif

didnt you know that only people who were at the opening and closing nites of the casino ...torch...wheel etc and knew jackie wilson personally are allowed to make sweeping generalisations......and then only after a tuppenny pie.......

cookie wicked.gif

:D WHICH LAST NIGHT AT THE CASINO THERE WAS 4 :thumbup: Im warming to this book by the minute!!! Wonder if he metions his fight with Butch? To be honest t would be good to get his view on the book!

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biggrin.gif WHICH LAST NIGHT AT THE CASINO THERE WAS 4 :thumbup: Im warming to this book by the minute!!! Wonder if he metions his fight with Butch? To be honest t would be good to get his view on the book!

Guest Paul
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What if Ginger's book is adapted into a movie?

Which actor would play Ginger???

Just a thought.

:thumbup:

Guest familytree
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LONG LIVE 'KING GINGER' :thumbup:

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What if Ginger's book is adapted into a movie?

Which actor would play Ginger???

Just a thought.

:D

This gentleman , the spitting image of the Tod Terror ........

That is a jotty you owe me Raymond :thumbsup:

Malc Burton

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Picked up my copy last night at Brighouse,kindly signed by Ginger and Rob.Started the book today its a great entertaining read.Spoke to Ginger outside and he was telling me he was off to the Torquay weekender straight after.The man is still putting himself about,he is very approachable and if you talk to him with warmth and respect he gives it back double.He is a peoples man,a soulies soulie,good luck to him and i hope the book sales pay for a great seat at the champions league final for a champion DJ

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Picked up my copy last night at Brighouse,kindly signed by Ginger and Rob.Started the book today its a great entertaining read.Spoke to Ginger outside and he was telling me he was off to the Torquay weekender straight after.The man is still putting himself about,he is very approachable and if you talk to him with warmth and respect he gives it back double.He is a peoples man,a soulies soulie,good luck to him and i hope the book sales pay for a great seat at the champions league final for a champion DJ

I'll second that Patto :(

Top man Ginger! Couldn't wish to meet a nicer guy (he's a Red too :D ) and he's been on the scene since the year dot!!

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  • How can you slag a book you haven't read, and a bloke you haven't met

It is amazing how easy it is: that's technology for you!

Half of the problem is that there is a book in most people on the scene - I remember Swish starting one in the 70s (if you know Swish you'll know that could have been the first Northern book to make it into the science-fiction section). So when something comes out a small section feel that someone has just p*ssed on their territory - it's understandable, and it makes the 'you have to read it first' point hard to apply. Some will not give it a fair hearing whether they've read it or not. A shame because whatever the weakness of the book, there's bound to be some, the strength is that it offers another part to our collective history. And as contributor above said, Ginger has played as bigger part in that history as most others: he has every right to voice it and good luck to him. Well done - getting it out is an achievement in itself!

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It would be hypocritical to judge somethinhg i have not read,however Im not running out to get this one immediatly till a bit feedback comes through.

does that mean if butch buys it you will also :D:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

I dont have to read EVERY book , by every person who writes one to know whats of interest to me. Ive listened to Ginger for over 30 years and to be honest, have not heard much of interest, to me. Thats not to say others dont enjoy him. I have not seen him out and about as a punter much either...out there on the floor dancing away and sharing his charisma with the rest of us. Thats not to say YOU wont find this interesting. Im sure you will. I know I dont like the style of Barbara Cartland and therefore dont feel the need to read all her books in order to judge them. Having seen her interviewed and having 'listened' to her philosophy and opinions, I just know shes not of interest to me. Its my perogitive. :thumbsup:

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I dont have to read EVERY book , by every person who writes one to know whats of interest to me.

Ive listened to Ginger for over 30 years and to be honest, have not heard much of interest, to me.

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does that mean if butch buys it you will also lamsey.gif:lol::thumbsup::thumbsup:

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

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I dont assume the books shite cookie f--k me where did that come from,I dont think Ginger is shite also,however if he is a big name and lives by that perhaps he should accept constructive critisism .

and therein lies the crux of the matter...and the futility of people pooh poohing a book not yet released..........

The crux of which matter? The fact that a midlde aged dj [soul fanatic gets a press release advertising his forthcoming book?whos kidding who?]or somewhere because i make a comment about excersising my commercial choice not to rush to waterstones to buy one persons recollection of a northern soul scene long gone [i become a judgemental mother----er!!!/ huh.gif

Baz, I've been trying to make sense of your comments on this thread:

Are you saying the book is crap or are you saying give it a chance?

I suspect, from what I can piece together, you don't like books, but you're quick to slag them off (even if you haven't read them) because you are more interested in the records and think people are writing books to blow hot air up their own backsides? Is that about it or have I got it way wrong?

SS

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Fair dos im not making a judgement im making a sweeping generalisation :thumbsup:

BAZ A :thumbsup:

didnt you know that only people who were at the opening and closing nites of the casino ...torch...wheel etc and knew jackie wilson personally are allowed to make sweeping generalisations......and then only after a tuppenny pie.......

cookie :lol:

:thumbsup: WHICH LAST NIGHT AT THE CASINO THERE WAS 4 whistling.gif Im warming to this book by the minute!!! Wonder if he metions his fight with Butch? To be honest t would be good to get his view on the book!

Well I was at the first one but I've never been sure if I was at the last one - I have the grubby ticket in front of me... 19th September 1981 it was my last one but was it THE last one?

And who won the TV?

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Samsoulster?

Is that you Ginger :lol:

:thumbsup: No, but I'm starting the fan club! LOL

I can't believe it, you know, out of all the clubs I went to (many) that was one that always seemed to be the back of beyond. I don't know what it was, distance, timing or my state of mind but it just never happened (at least, not that I can remember... so it might have).

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:lol: No, but I'm starting the fan club! LOL

I can't believe it, you know, out of all the clubs I went to (many) that was one that always seemed to be the back of beyond. I don't know what it was, distance, timing or my state of mind but it just never happened (at least, not that I can remember... so it might have).

Excuse my ignorance, is the book just about Wigan?

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