Dylan Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 is this still a hanfull of known copies ? https://cgi.ebay.com/TEFTELLER-Northern-Sou...%3A1%7C294%3A50
Denbo Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 is this still a hanfull of known copies ? https://cgi.ebay.com/TEFTELLER-Northern-Sou...%3A1%7C294%3A50 What is it? Garage? It's aweful!!!
Dylan Posted April 25, 2009 Author Posted April 25, 2009 What is it? Garage? It's aweful!!! its been a popular northern soul record for some time. Usually gets everybody up and dancing. prehaps not to everybodies taste. i'd never heard the flip side until now.
Denbo Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 its been a popular northern soul record for some time. Usually gets everybody up and dancing. prehaps not to everybodies taste. i'd never heard the flip side until now. Flip side wasn't that bad but in the cold light of day, the a-side was dire, sorry.
Hermanthegerman Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Like the flip, but not worth that kind of money imho (but haven´t got a clou anyway ).
TEDDY EDDY Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 You're not serious surely? Have you never heard this blasting out of a big system at a nighter? F**king A dancer for a long time. LOVE IT
Chalky Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Like the flip, but not worth that kind of money imho (but haven´t got a clou anyway ). IMHO it is worth that kinda money, still a very rare record. If Bill Bush is worth the £800 to £1k as stated elswhere in these pages then this is worth £8k far rarer and better IMHO.
Baz Atkinson Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 a real piece of northern history imo still sounds bloody great imo BAZ A
Simsy Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) Love this record! It's my 13 year old brothers favorite song! Flip aint half bad either! Oops, it's Kylee! Edited April 25, 2009 by Simsy
Quinvy Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 What is it? Garage? It's aweful!!! I calmed down and edited my original post........ truly fantastic record that epitomizes what I love about the scene....
Guest dundeedavie Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Sure I'm serious, it's all off key and all over the place. I can only guess this sounds great out at Allnighters 'cos those bashin' the dance floor are out of their heads. always been a great record and always will .... has a rawness that really appeals to me
Denbo Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 always been a great record and always will .... has a rawness that really appeals to me He he, stirred up a hornets nest here, eh? Still don't like it and doesn't fit into my category of a stormin' Northern Soul record . . . sorry!!!
Dave Moore Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 He he, stirred up a hornets nest here, eh? Still don't like it and doesn't fit into my category of a stormin' Northern Soul record . . . sorry!!! You're not alone.....I think it's gubbins too. Not quite as bad as that George Lemons dirge but close.
Guest dundeedavie Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 He he, stirred up a hornets nest here, eh? Still don't like it and doesn't fit into my category of a stormin' Northern Soul record . . . sorry!!! i wouldn't say people commenting on the quality of a record (it's what the site does after all) would class as stirring up a hornets nest ..... was that your intention ?
Denbo Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) i wouldn't say people commenting on the quality of a record (it's what the site does after all) would class as stirring up a hornets nest ..... was that your intention ? Not really Dave, it's just that when I saw one or two biting, I couldn't resist. Bit bored, know what I mean . . . sorry. Suppose I should have watched the football but I decided to clean records for sale at the Hideaway tonight and found myself checking out Soul Source to see what's happening. Honestly, each to their own but there are some records, like this one, that fetch tons of money for some reason, that I can never find any attraction for, so I just voice my opinion, which ain't worth much I admit but hey, this is a forum and we're all entitled to express our views, one way or the other. Might find myself working back in Aberdeen sometime fairly soon. MUST pop down to Edinburgh for a night out at your place. Been meaning to do so for yonks but work and family always seem to get in the way. Hopefully soon. Need some 9-Hole courses and beltin' scenery to cleanse my soul. Best, Denbo. Edited April 25, 2009 by denbo
Guest Matt Male Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 I'm afraid, in the cold light of day, it just don't cut it, regardless how rare or valuable it might be. Fair enough, if you've got cloth ears Rarity and value have bugger all to do with it for me though.
Denbo Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Fair enough, if you've got cloth ears Rarity and value have bugger all to do with it for me though. C'mon, rarety and value have a lot to do with one's perception of a good or not so good record. Knowing a record is worth a bundle somehow makes the record sound that little bit better, no matter how bad it REALLY is. I don't care what you say, it's true. As for my cloth ears? Well, I think after over 40 years of collecting, amongst other things, Northern Soul records, I think I can discount that problem . . . IMO of course!!!
KevH Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 One of the landmark tracks in NS history imho......Kev
Guest dundeedavie Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Hopefully soon. Need some 9-Hole courses and beltin' scenery to cleanse my soul. Best, Denbo. well we have no shortage of either
Guest in town Mikey Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 I'm a bit bored of it too. When it first broke, it was awesome. Now.....not so. I dont think this is a track that will stand the test of time.
Guest franky m Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 I'm a bit bored of it too. When it first broke, it was awesome. Now.....not so. I dont think this is a track that will stand the test of time. ????
Mark W Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 I'm a bit bored of it too. When it first broke, it was awesome. Now.....not so. I dont think this is a track that will stand the test of time. First played '87, surely that IS the test of time well and truly passed??? Great memories of this at Tony's Empress in Blackburn, G Davis and R Tyler, fantastic Northern IMO.
TEDDY EDDY Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 First played '87, surely that IS the test of time well and truly passed??? Great memories of this at Tony's Empress in Blackburn, G Davis and R Tyler, fantastic Northern IMO. can only agree mark will still sound great in 10 years time
Premium Stuff Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Sure I'm serious, it's all off key and all over the place. I can only guess this sounds great out at Allnighters 'cos those bashin' the dance floor are out of their heads. I'll admit, an Allnighter atmosphere might give it that extra drive but I'm afraid, in the cold light of day, it just don't cut it, regardless how rare or valuable it might be. That rawness, roughness, 'off key and all over the place' is exactly what makes it the 'northern soul' legend that it is - the rough and ready approach is key to it. It ain't Mary Wells on Motown, that's for sure Think of the Salvadors, Del Larks etc. - it's the same kind of thing. This superb roughness and lack of polish is the same in many genres - think of the Stooges, Howling Wolf, Velvet Underground. The hard edges of this track are the very essence of it Cheers Richard
Tommaso Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Knowing a record is worth a bundle somehow makes the record sound that little bit better, no matter how bad it REALLY is. Very very true words, we all want more what is hard to get.. noone of us collectors can be really objective. This tune would be hardly considered if it wasn't so rare, not even near the Del Larks or the Salvadors IMHO. Still, a catchy record that would get people dancing everywhere I suppose..
Guest hudsoul Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 must say a personnal fav of mine as well,,always fills the floor and has done since the days of it being played as g. davis and r. taylor by butch,
Garethx Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Not really Dave, it's just that when I saw one or two biting, I couldn't resist. Bit bored, know what I mean . . . sorry. Suppose I should have watched the football but I decided to clean records for sale at the Hideaway tonight and found myself checking out Soul Source to see what's happening. Honestly, each to their own but there are some records, like this one, that fetch tons of money for some reason, that I can never find any attraction for, so I just voice my opinion, which ain't worth much I admit but hey, this is a forum and we're all entitled to express our views, one way or the other. Might find myself working back in Aberdeen sometime fairly soon. MUST pop down to Edinburgh for a night out at your place. Been meaning to do so for yonks but work and family always seem to get in the way. Hopefully soon. Need some 9-Hole courses and beltin' scenery to cleanse my soul. Best, Denbo. it fetches money because it's properly rare and has been consistently popular as a dancefloor record for the best part of twenty five years. A wise man made the point to me recently that a great many of the records we always thought of as rare are, in reality, anything but. Think of how many copies of, for example, Jackey Beavers on Revilot have shown up since the world became more ebay-savvy. This record, love it or hate it, has proven to be stubbornly rare in it's original format. This particular copy is as clean as any I've ever seen offered for sale and will go for a significant amount of money. Proper Northern soul.
Denbo Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 That rawness, roughness, 'off key and all over the place' is exactly what makes it the 'northern soul' legend that it is - the rough and ready approach is key to it. It ain't Mary Wells on Motown, that's for sure Think of the Salvadors, Del Larks etc. - it's the same kind of thing. This superb roughness and lack of polish is the same in many genres - think of the Stooges, Howling Wolf, Velvet Underground. The hard edges of this track are the very essence of it Cheers Richard I guess you and I just like different kinds of Northern Soul. Nowt wrong with a bit of raw edge but for me, this one's beyond that . . . sorry.
Denbo Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 it fetches money because it's properly rare and has been consistently popular as a dancefloor record for the best part of twenty five years. A wise man made the point to me recently that a great many of the records we always thought of as rare are, in reality, anything but. Think of how many copies of, for example, Jackey Beavers on Revilot have shown up since the world became more ebay-savvy. This record, love it or hate it, has proven to be stubbornly rare in it's original format. This particular copy is as clean as any I've ever seen offered for sale and will go for a significant amount of money. Proper Northern soul. You're up late. Then, I guess, so am I. Nicely put but it doesn't change my opinion. Like you said, a popular dancefloor record but in the cold light of day . . . . nah, not good enough. Good night my friend.
Mark Bicknell Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 First class example of a trophy record and IMO at best average cack...sorry woke up in a bad mood....lol Regards - Mark Bicknell.
Mark Bicknell Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Have a nice cup of coffee first, Mark... Just having my first cup now, coming round and feeling much better now but still think it's an average record lol Regards - Mark Bicknell.
Guest Leigh J Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) First played '87, surely that IS the test of time well and truly passed??? Great memories of this at Tony's Empress in Blackburn, G Davis and R Tyler, fantastic Northern IMO. If I remember right this was played C/U in the late 80's ,You didnt hear it too often until Shifty hammered it ! I nearly traded one for a Willie Mason and I have seen a few more Willie Masons around than this , One of the best discoveries since Stafford Edited April 26, 2009 by Leigh J
Dylan Posted April 26, 2009 Author Posted April 26, 2009 seem to remember shifty telling me paid about 50 quid for it as well. How times have changed.....
Simon M Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) If I remember right this was played C/U in the late 80's ,You didnt hear it too often until Shifty hammered it ! I nearly traded one for a Willie Mason and I have seen a few more Willie Masons around than this , One of the best discoveries since Stafford Im thought this was played at Stafford maybe by Butch himself ? See below link https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/patbrady.htm Edited April 26, 2009 by Simon M
Guest in town Mikey Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 First played '87, surely that IS the test of time well and truly passed??? Great memories of this at Tony's Empress in Blackburn, G Davis and R Tyler, fantastic Northern IMO. My point exactly. Was great. Now boring. Time has eroded all pleasure, therefore - FAIL
Garethx Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Played at Wigan first. Levine sold it to Pat Brady who played A Life of Tears there.
Chalky Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 If I remember right this was played C/U in the late 80's ,You didnt hear it too often until Shifty hammered it ! I nearly traded one for a Willie Mason and I have seen a few more Willie Masons around than this , One of the best discoveries since Stafford I heard this practically every week back in the mid 80's courtesy of Butch, before Shifty.
Guest Beeks Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Personally I think it's flooking awful...but each to their own I suppose
Denbo Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Personally I think it's flooking awful...but each to their own I suppose Not a bad observation . . . for a City fan.
Ted Massey Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 The story goes Adey Pierce bought Life of tears of John Powney(very cheap apparently) got the record put the b side on as you do and what should he hear the rest is history , apparently Tim Ashibendi was with Butch when he bought the record off Dave Allcock and even Tim did not know it was Life Of Tears Butch had covered up. I stand to be corrected but im certain this is true
Baz Atkinson Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 The story goes Adey Pierce bought Life of tears of John Powney(very cheap apparently) got the record put the b side on as you do and what should he hear the rest is history , apparently Tim Ashibendi was with Butch when he bought the record off Dave Allcock and even Tim did not know it was Life Of Tears Butch had covered up. I stand to be corrected but im certain this is true yep for those who dont know POWNEY had or has had almost every supa rare northern soul record known to man and most went to the obvious collectors for a what would be termed "a pittance" he could along with Coppell of being a serious millionaire,to go to his house and see what hehad was simply mindblowing !!! BAZ A
Dylan Posted April 26, 2009 Author Posted April 26, 2009 Personally I think it's flooking awful...but each to their own I suppose sound so much better than that clip in a venue. The bass is much more prominent.
Guest Leigh J Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 I heard this practically every week back in the mid 80's courtesy of Butch, before Shifty. I will have to take your word for it , But Butch didnt DJ every week in the mid 80's
Chalky Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 I will have to take your word for it , But Butch didnt DJ every week in the mid 80's ok maybe not every week but it was his G Davis and R Tyler cover up some years before Shifty played it.
Jumpinjoan Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 ok maybe not every week but it was his G Davis and R Tyler cover up some years before Shifty played it. It was definitely the 80s when I first heard Butch play it. And I know this because I was still living with me mam and dad First time I ever heard Butch DJ I wrote down in my little notebook: G Davis R Tyler, the Del Larks and the Just Brothers. I've still got the notebook somewhere.
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