is this still a hanfull of known copies ?

https://cgi.ebay.com/TEFTELLER-Northern-Sou...%3A1%7C294%3A50

yes

are you bored of this one marc

  dylan said:

is this still a hanfull of known copies ?

https://cgi.ebay.com/TEFTELLER-Northern-Sou...%3A1%7C294%3A50

What is it? Garage? It's aweful!!!

  denbo said:

What is it? Garage? It's aweful!!!

its been a popular northern soul record for some time. Usually gets everybody up and dancing.

prehaps not to everybodies taste.

i'd never heard the flip side until now.

  dylan said:

its been a popular northern soul record for some time. Usually gets everybody up and dancing.

prehaps not to everybodies taste.

i'd never heard the flip side until now.

Flip side wasn't that bad but in the cold light of day, the a-side was dire, sorry.

Like the flip, but not worth that kind of money imho (but haven´t got a clou anyway ).

  Matt Male said:

You're not serious surely? Have you never heard this blasting out of a big system at a nighter? F**king A dancer for a long time.

LOVE IT

  hermanthegerman said:

Like the flip, but not worth that kind of money imho (but haven´t got a clou anyway ).

IMHO it is worth that kinda money, still a very rare record.

If Bill Bush is worth the £800 to £1k as stated elswhere in these pages then this is worth £8k far rarer and better IMHO.

a real piece of northern history imo still sounds bloody great imo

BAZ A

Love this record! It's my 13 year old brothers favorite song!

Flip aint half bad either!

Oops, it's Kylee!

Edited April 25, 200916 yr by Simsy

One word NORTHERN!

Great to dance to too.

Kev

  denbo said:

What is it? Garage? It's aweful!!!

I calmed down and edited my original post........ truly fantastic record that epitomizes what I love about the scene....

  denbo said:

Sure I'm serious, it's all off key and all over the place. I can only guess this sounds great out at Allnighters 'cos those bashin' the dance floor are out of their heads.

always been a great record and always will .... has a rawness that really appeals to me

  Dundeedavie2 said:

always been a great record and always will .... has a rawness that really appeals to me

He he, stirred up a hornets nest here, eh?

Still don't like it and doesn't fit into my category of a stormin' Northern Soul record . . . sorry!!!

  denbo said:

He he, stirred up a hornets nest here, eh?

Still don't like it and doesn't fit into my category of a stormin' Northern Soul record . . . sorry!!!

You're not alone.....I think it's gubbins too. Not quite as bad as that George Lemons dirge but close.

  denbo said:

He he, stirred up a hornets nest here, eh?

Still don't like it and doesn't fit into my category of a stormin' Northern Soul record . . . sorry!!!

i wouldn't say people commenting on the quality of a record (it's what the site does after all) would class as stirring up a hornets nest ..... was that your intention ?

  Dundeedavie2 said:

i wouldn't say people commenting on the quality of a record (it's what the site does after all) would class as stirring up a hornets nest ..... was that your intention ?

Not really Dave, it's just that when I saw one or two biting, I couldn't resist. Bit bored, know what I mean . . . sorry.

Suppose I should have watched the football but I decided to clean records for sale at the Hideaway tonight and found myself checking out Soul Source to see what's happening.

Honestly, each to their own but there are some records, like this one, that fetch tons of money for some reason, that I can never find any attraction for, so I just voice my opinion, which ain't worth much I admit but hey, this is a forum and we're all entitled to express our views, one way or the other.

Might find myself working back in Aberdeen sometime fairly soon. MUST pop down to Edinburgh for a night out at your place. Been meaning to do so for yonks but work and family always seem to get in the way. Hopefully soon. Need some 9-Hole courses and beltin' scenery to cleanse my soul.

Best, Denbo.

Edited April 25, 200916 yr by denbo

  denbo said:

I'm afraid, in the cold light of day, it just don't cut it, regardless how rare or valuable it might be.

Fair enough, if you've got cloth ears

Rarity and value have bugger all to do with it for me though.

  Matt Male said:

Fair enough, if you've got cloth ears

Rarity and value have bugger all to do with it for me though.

C'mon, rarety and value have a lot to do with one's perception of a good or not so good record.

Knowing a record is worth a bundle somehow makes the record sound that little bit better, no matter how bad it REALLY is.

I don't care what you say, it's true.

As for my cloth ears? Well, I think after over 40 years of collecting, amongst other things, Northern Soul records, I think I can discount that problem . . . IMO of course!!!

One of the landmark tracks in NS history imho......Kev

  denbo said:

Hopefully soon. Need some 9-Hole courses and beltin' scenery to cleanse my soul.

Best, Denbo.

well we have no shortage of either

I'm a bit bored of it too. When it first broke, it was awesome. Now.....not so.

I dont think this is a track that will stand the test of time.

  in town Mikey said:

I'm a bit bored of it too. When it first broke, it was awesome. Now.....not so.

I dont think this is a track that will stand the test of time.

????

  in town Mikey said:

I'm a bit bored of it too. When it first broke, it was awesome. Now.....not so.

I dont think this is a track that will stand the test of time.

First played '87, surely that IS the test of time well and truly passed???

Great memories of this at Tony's Empress in Blackburn, G Davis and R Tyler, fantastic Northern IMO.

  mark.w said:

First played '87, surely that IS the test of time well and truly passed???

Great memories of this at Tony's Empress in Blackburn, G Davis and R Tyler, fantastic Northern IMO.

can only agree mark will still sound great in 10 years time

  denbo said:

Sure I'm serious, it's all off key and all over the place. I can only guess this sounds great out at Allnighters 'cos those bashin' the dance floor are out of their heads. I'll admit, an Allnighter atmosphere might give it that extra drive but I'm afraid, in the cold light of day, it just don't cut it, regardless how rare or valuable it might be.

That rawness, roughness, 'off key and all over the place' is exactly what makes it the 'northern soul' legend that it is - the rough and ready approach is key to it. It ain't Mary Wells on Motown, that's for sure

Think of the Salvadors, Del Larks etc. - it's the same kind of thing.

This superb roughness and lack of polish is the same in many genres - think of the Stooges, Howling Wolf, Velvet Underground.

The hard edges of this track are the very essence of it

Cheers

Richard

  denbo said:

Knowing a record is worth a bundle somehow makes the record sound that little bit better, no matter how bad it REALLY is.

Very very true words, we all want more what is hard to get.. noone of us collectors can be really objective.

This tune would be hardly considered if it wasn't so rare, not even near the Del Larks or the Salvadors IMHO. Still, a catchy record that would get people dancing everywhere I suppose..

must say a personnal fav of mine as well,,always fills the floor and has done since the days of it being played as g. davis and r. taylor by butch,

  denbo said:

Not really Dave, it's just that when I saw one or two biting, I couldn't resist. Bit bored, know what I mean . . . sorry.

Suppose I should have watched the football but I decided to clean records for sale at the Hideaway tonight and found myself checking out Soul Source to see what's happening.

Honestly, each to their own but there are some records, like this one, that fetch tons of money for some reason, that I can never find any attraction for, so I just voice my opinion, which ain't worth much I admit but hey, this is a forum and we're all entitled to express our views, one way or the other.

Might find myself working back in Aberdeen sometime fairly soon. MUST pop down to Edinburgh for a night out at your place. Been meaning to do so for yonks but work and family always seem to get in the way. Hopefully soon. Need some 9-Hole courses and beltin' scenery to cleanse my soul.

Best, Denbo.

it fetches money because it's properly rare and has been consistently popular as a dancefloor record for the best part of twenty five years. A wise man made the point to me recently that a great many of the records we always thought of as rare are, in reality, anything but. Think of how many copies of, for example, Jackey Beavers on Revilot have shown up since the world became more ebay-savvy.

This record, love it or hate it, has proven to be stubbornly rare in it's original format. This particular copy is as clean as any I've ever seen offered for sale and will go for a significant amount of money.

Proper Northern soul.

  Premium Stuff said:

That rawness, roughness, 'off key and all over the place' is exactly what makes it the 'northern soul' legend that it is - the rough and ready approach is key to it. It ain't Mary Wells on Motown, that's for sure

Think of the Salvadors, Del Larks etc. - it's the same kind of thing.

This superb roughness and lack of polish is the same in many genres - think of the Stooges, Howling Wolf, Velvet Underground.

The hard edges of this track are the very essence of it

Cheers

Richard

I guess you and I just like different kinds of Northern Soul.

Nowt wrong with a bit of raw edge but for me, this one's beyond that . . . sorry.

  garethx said:

it fetches money because it's properly rare and has been consistently popular as a dancefloor record for the best part of twenty five years. A wise man made the point to me recently that a great many of the records we always thought of as rare are, in reality, anything but. Think of how many copies of, for example, Jackey Beavers on Revilot have shown up since the world became more ebay-savvy.

This record, love it or hate it, has proven to be stubbornly rare in it's original format. This particular copy is as clean as any I've ever seen offered for sale and will go for a significant amount of money.

Proper Northern soul.

You're up late. Then, I guess, so am I.

Nicely put but it doesn't change my opinion.

Like you said, a popular dancefloor record but in the cold light of day . . . . nah, not good enough.

Good night my friend.

First class example of a trophy record and IMO at best average cack...sorry woke up in a bad mood....lol

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Have a nice cup of coffee first, Mark...

  hermanthegerman said:

Have a nice cup of coffee first, Mark...

Just having my first cup now, coming round and feeling much better now but still think it's an average record lol

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Same as me

  mark.w said:

First played '87, surely that IS the test of time well and truly passed???

Great memories of this at Tony's Empress in Blackburn, G Davis and R Tyler, fantastic Northern IMO.

If I remember right this was played C/U in the late 80's ,You didnt hear it too often until Shifty hammered it ! I nearly traded one for a Willie Mason and I have seen a few more Willie Masons around than this , One of the best discoveries since Stafford

Edited April 26, 200916 yr by Leigh J

seem to remember shifty telling me paid about 50 quid for it as well. How times have changed.....

  Leigh J said:

If I remember right this was played C/U in the late 80's ,You didnt hear it too often until Shifty hammered it ! I nearly traded one for a Willie Mason and I have seen a few more Willie Masons around than this , One of the best discoveries since Stafford

Im thought this was played at Stafford maybe by Butch himself ? See below link

https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/patbrady.htm

Edited April 26, 200916 yr by Simon M

  mark.w said:

First played '87, surely that IS the test of time well and truly passed???

Great memories of this at Tony's Empress in Blackburn, G Davis and R Tyler, fantastic Northern IMO.

My point exactly. Was great. Now boring.

Time has eroded all pleasure, therefore - FAIL

Played at Wigan first. Levine sold it to Pat Brady who played A Life of Tears there.

  Leigh J said:

If I remember right this was played C/U in the late 80's ,You didnt hear it too often until Shifty hammered it ! I nearly traded one for a Willie Mason and I have seen a few more Willie Masons around than this , One of the best discoveries since Stafford

I heard this practically every week back in the mid 80's courtesy of Butch, before Shifty.

Personally I think it's flooking awful...but each to their own I suppose

  Beeks said:

Personally I think it's flooking awful...but each to their own I suppose

Not a bad observation . . . for a City fan.

The story goes Adey Pierce bought Life of tears of John Powney(very cheap apparently) got the record put the b side on as you do and what should he hear the rest is history , apparently Tim Ashibendi was with Butch when he bought the record off Dave Allcock and even Tim did not know it was Life Of Tears Butch had covered up. I stand to be corrected but im certain this is true

  Tedsoul said:

The story goes Adey Pierce bought Life of tears of John Powney(very cheap apparently) got the record put the b side on as you do and what should he hear the rest is history , apparently Tim Ashibendi was with Butch when he bought the record off Dave Allcock and even Tim did not know it was Life Of Tears Butch had covered up. I stand to be corrected but im certain this is true

yep for those who dont know POWNEY had or has had almost every supa rare northern soul record known to man and most went to the obvious collectors for a what would be termed "a pittance" he could along with Coppell of being a serious millionaire,to go to his house and see what hehad was simply mindblowing !!!

BAZ A

  Beeks said:

Personally I think it's flooking awful...but each to their own I suppose

sound so much better than that clip in a venue. The bass is much more prominent.

  chalky said:

I heard this practically every week back in the mid 80's courtesy of Butch, before Shifty.

I will have to take your word for it , But Butch didnt DJ every week in the mid 80's

  Leigh J said:

I will have to take your word for it , But Butch didnt DJ every week in the mid 80's

ok maybe not every week but it was his G Davis and R Tyler cover up some years before Shifty played it.

  chalky said:

ok maybe not every week but it was his G Davis and R Tyler cover up some years before Shifty played it.

It was definitely the 80s when I first heard Butch play it. And I know this because I was still living with me mam and dad

First time I ever heard Butch DJ I wrote down in my little notebook: G Davis R Tyler, the Del Larks and the Just Brothers.

I've still got the notebook somewhere.

  denbo said:

Sure I'm serious, it's all off key and all over the place. I can only guess this sounds great out at Allnighters 'cos those bashin' the dance floor are out of their heads. I'll admit, an Allnighter atmosphere might give it that extra drive but I'm afraid, in the cold light of day, it just don't cut it, regardless how rare or valuable it might be.

with you on this one... sounds dredful!... all off key... doesnt cut it for me either...... all down to taste i guess?!