Guest kerby Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) found this on the net pmsl . A Northern Soul Film: Ouch March 3rd, 2009 I went to a test screening of this film on Monday in Birmingham and it was terrible. 1974. Power cuts, strikes and boot-boy aggro on the terraces. Flares,Chopper bikes and beer at fourteen pence a pint. JOE MCCAIN, 17 and restless, is bored with the flatline tedium of a life that seems like it's going nowhere. Enter JANE, moving to the beat of a music that Joe's never heard, a vision of loveliness who opens the door to a whole world of sound, movement and all-nighter dancing at The Wigan Casino - the home of Northern Soul! Swept along on this tide of pulsating dance and lust, Joe finally finds somewhere he belongs and the acceptance and true love he yearns for. Although I am too young to really know what the scene was like, I have only experienced what it is like now, at Prestatyn, 100 Club, Soul Revolution and all nighters in Brum and Stoke. I do know that it was in no way bland, clean and never looked like a school disco. This film is a poor representation of the Northern Soul scene, it does not touch on any of the passion, atmosphere, enthusiasm and energy, it is wholly unrealistic and in parts ridiculous - especially the dance/fight scene where the 'hero' and the main protagonist decide to settle their differences by using floor drops and spins. I could go on, but I can feel myself getting properly wound up. Don't go and see it, life is too short and you could be spending your time doing something more productive like listening to Soul records and watching Edited April 19, 2009 by kerby
Guest familytree Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 found this on the net pmsl . A Northern Soul Film: Ouch March 3rd, 2009 I went to a test screening of this film on Monday in Birmingham and it was terrible. 1974. Power cuts, strikes and boot-boy aggro on the terraces. Flares,Chopper bikes and beer at fourteen pence a pint. JOE MCCAIN, 17 and restless, is bored with the flatline tedium of a life that seems like it's going nowhere. Enter JANE, moving to the beat of a music that Joe's never heard, a vision of loveliness who opens the door to a whole world of sound, movement and all-nighter dancing at The Wigan Casino - the home of Northern Soul! Swept along on this tide of pulsating dance and lust, Joe finally finds somewhere he belongs and the acceptance and true love he yearns for. Although I am too young to really know what the scene was like, I have only experienced what it is like now, at Prestatyn, 100 Club, Soul Revolution and all nighters in Brum and Stoke. I do know that it was in no way bland, clean and never looked like a school disco. This film is a poor representation of the Northern Soul scene, it does not touch on any of the passion, atmosphere, enthusiasm and energy, it is wholly unrealistic and in parts ridiculous - especially the dance/fight scene where the 'hero' and the main protagonist decide to settle their differences by using floor drops and spins. I could go on, but I can feel myself getting properly wound up. Don't go and see it, life is too short and you could be spending your time doing something more productive like listening to Soul records and watching they have a 'dance off' in stead of a fight????? oh dear.... sounds familiar... not! x
Guest andrew bin Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 found this on the net pmsl . A Northern Soul Film: Ouch March 3rd, 2009 I went to a test screening of this film on Monday in Birmingham and it was terrible. 1974. Power cuts, strikes and boot-boy aggro on the terraces. Flares,Chopper bikes and beer at fourteen pence a pint. JOE MCCAIN, 17 and restless, is bored with the flatline tedium of a life that seems like it's going nowhere. Enter JANE, moving to the beat of a music that Joe's never heard, a vision of loveliness who opens the door to a whole world of sound, movement and all-nighter dancing at The Wigan Casino - the home of Northern Soul! Swept along on this tide of pulsating dance and lust, Joe finally finds somewhere he belongs and the acceptance and true love he yearns for. Although I am too young to really know what the scene was like, I have only experienced what it is like now, at Prestatyn, 100 Club, Soul Revolution and all nighters in Brum and Stoke. I do know that it was in no way bland, clean and never looked like a school disco. This film is a poor representation of the Northern Soul scene, it does not touch on any of the passion, atmosphere, enthusiasm and energy, it is wholly unrealistic and in parts ridiculous - especially the dance/fight scene where the 'hero' and the main protagonist decide to settle their differences by using floor drops and spins. I could go on, but I can feel myself getting properly wound up. Don't go and see it, life is too short and you could be spending your time doing something more productive like listening to Soul records and watching sounds like west side story
Steve G Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 sounds like west side story Settling scores via dance offs...... funny......Hey we could have some fun with this West Side story theme Andrew I've just written a NEW press edit especially for the US market............... Two 'gangs' vying for control of the mean streets of northern England - one from the North West side called the "Jets" who were centred around the mean streets of the Wigan area and who met up in a disused gambling den called "The Casino" every Saturday night. "The Jets" were notorious for their acrobatic dancing, spinning, flips and high kicks - and trademark sweaty vests.....And then..... from the "East Side" there were the "Sharks" who hung round the "Clethorpes Pier" area, and who were notorious for their fast footwork and dancing on the spot - later embraced and popularised by Michael Flattley and his "River Dance".......when these two gangs clashed in mid 70's working class Britain the results were explosive! A tale of drugs, discos, girls and dance-offs. Not to be missed.
Jumpinjoan Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Come on guys, don't knock it till you've seen it
Guest familytree Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Settling scores via dance offs...... funny......Hey we could have some fun with this West Side story theme Andrew I've just written a NEW press edit especially for the US market............... Two 'gangs' vying for control of the mean streets of northern England - one from the North West side called the "Jets" who were centred around the mean streets of the Wigan area and who met up in a disused gambling den called "The Casino" every Saturday night. "The Jets" were notorious for their acrobatic dancing, spinning, flips and high kicks - and trademark sweaty vests.....And then..... from the "East Side" there were the "Sharks" who hung round the "Clethorpes Pier" area, and who were notorious for their fast footwork and dancing on the spot - later embraced and popularised by Michael Flattley and his "River Dance".......when these two gangs clashed in mid 70's working class Britain the results were explosive! A tale of drugs, discos, girls and dance-offs. Not to be missed. brilliant! ... i would pay money to see that one! i was a jet... but like river dance?!
Guest andrew bin Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Settling scores via dance offs...... funny......Hey we could have some fun with this West Side story theme Andrew I've just written a NEW press edit especially for the US market............... Two 'gangs' vying for control of the mean streets of northern England - one from the North West side called the "Jets" who were centred around the mean streets of the Wigan area and who met up in a disused gambling den called "The Casino" every Saturday night. "The Jets" were notorious for their acrobatic dancing, spinning, flips and high kicks - and trademark sweaty vests.....And then..... from the "East Side" there were the "Sharks" who hung round the "Clethorpes Pier" area, and who were notorious for their fast footwork and dancing on the spot - later embraced and popularised by Michael Flattley and his "River Dance".......when these two gangs clashed in mid 70's working class Britain the results were explosive! A tale of drugs, discos, girls and dance-offs. Not to be missed. sounds good la-la-la-la-la-la mecca
Guest MBarrett Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 OMG . . . . . the sooner this film gets released the better! I was at that same screening in Birmingham and I am pretty confused . . . people were asked to stay behind for a discussion session . . . and I can't remember anyone expressing such strong criticisms. One thing I do remember is one woman who had been around soul music for the last 30 years and she said she wished the film had been an hour longer. So there you have 2 diametrically opposed views. The "dance off" was certainly more fantasy than fact. Of course. But West Side Story it wasn't. But there was another fantasy bit where the kid who plays the lead role was desperate to get to Wigan and he sets off on a Chopper bike. It was silly. But it was meant to be. There were bits of humour like this built in and it was all the better for it. I repeat what I said at the time . . . I enjoyed it. It's not a classic but I believe that more people will be happier that it was made than if it hadn't been. I asked the Ipso Facto guy when he thought it would be released and he said hopefully around September time. So that's when I might be changing my diet and eating huge portions of humble pie. But I can only express an honest opinion on what I saw with my own eyes . . . .
Casper Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 some will like it ... some wont...simple.... some will give it a chance..some wont...sad... sooooo,....everyone to their own...but don't put down what you have not yet seen...thats not fair now is it ? pete n' suasn KTF
Sunnysoul Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 This movie may do for the Northern Scene what "Shag, The Movie" did for the Beach Music Scene in the US when that movie was released in 1989 ...
Sunnysoul Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 This movie may do for the Northern Scene what "Shag, The Movie" did for the Beach Music Scene in the US when that movie was released in 1989 ... Or as Edwin Starr used to sing: "What is it good for ? Absolutely nothing ..."
Steve G Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 some will like it ... some wont...simple.... some will give it a chance..some wont...sad... sooooo,....everyone to their own...but don't put down what you have not yet seen...thats not fair now is it ? pete n' suasn KTF I am not putting the film down, just having a larf.....in the same way as the film producers had a larf with the guy cycling to Wigan on a chopper bike.......now that is funny! I've just thought of another sub plot....he cycles through the mean streets of Wolverhampton, with locals throwing rocks at him etc, but then gets a puncture on the Stafford Road, and has to be taken back home by the police.
sister dawn Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Come on guys, don't knock it till you've seen it
Rob Wigley Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Shag-the movie-priceless But the "Souled out" film has to be given a chance, it's not a documentary it's a 95 min bit of fun with a Northern Soul theme. Sure your views will be misrepresented and exaggerated, it's the media does to make things "appeal" to the masses We will go with an open mind. We loved "Once upon a time in Wigan" which touched on something's you just take for granted-can you imagine walking up to someone and saying "can I have a look at your box?" in a night club How very dare you! So lets wait and see should I see if we can get another advance showing at Bridlington in the 900 seat theatre there at The Spa ? I bet it would be PACKED ! Rob
Guest Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Shag-the movie-priceless But the "Souled out" film has to be given a chance, it's not a documentary it's a 95 min bit of fun with a Northern Soul theme. Sure your views will be misrepresented and exaggerated, it's the media does to make things "appeal" to the masses We will go with an open mind. We loved "Once upon a time in Wigan" which touched on something's you just take for granted-can you imagine walking up to someone and saying "can I have a look at your box?" in a night club How very dare you! So lets wait and see should I see if we can get another advance showing at Bridlington in the 900 seat theatre there at The Spa ? I bet it would be PACKED ! Rob I went to see " Shag " , thinking it was a documentary about pipe smoking ........ Malc Burton Edited April 21, 2009 by Malc Burton
Simsy Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 I have only experienced what it is like now, at Prestatyn, 100 Club, Soul Revolution and all nighters in Brum and Stoke. The Reality .. This film is a poor representation of the Northern Soul scene, it does not touch on any of the passion, atmosphere, enthusiasm and energy, it is wholly unrealistic and in parts ridiculous - The reality of all of our misgivings about this turdy project from the off!
Guest sarahleen Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 Come on guys, don't knock it till you've seen it
Pete S Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 I am not putting the film down, just having a larf.....in the same way as the film producers had a larf with the guy cycling to Wigan on a chopper bike.......now that is funny! I've just thought of another sub plot....he cycles through the mean streets of Wolverhampton, with locals throwing rocks at him etc, but then gets a puncture on the Stafford Road, and has to be taken back home by the police. i SAW THAT HAPPEN!
Guest Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 The Reality .. The reality of all of our misgivings about this turdy project from the off! Though I'm not sure that the adjective "turdy" can be found in the Oxford English Mr Sims, I AM pretty sure its a pretty good summing up (and I speak as someone who was filmed and is hoping to end up on the cutting room floor *coughs* err, so to speak! )
Reg Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 i SAW THAT HAPPEN! Was it you Pete, complete with Star Jumper and polyveldts.. (actually thinking about it I bet you didn't have polyveldts.... ).. I reckon that they should do a free screening for Soul Source Members..in Manchester ....(obviously...very central )...and we can tell them whether they've got it right or not...
Guest ritchie Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 When Henri Matisse received critique regarding the realism of a womens arm in one of his works he replied stating "It is not an arm it is a painting of one " homage or hogwash it will be what it will be.
Rob Wigley Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 I went to see " Shag " , thinking it was a documentary about pipe smoking ........ Malc Burton I thought it was "Twist" in Yorkshire?-good afternoon "Duke"
Guest Posted April 21, 2009 Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) I thought it was "Twist" in Yorkshire?-good afternoon "Duke" No Roberto : when it came to filling your meershaum , it was always " shag " , or more to the point " half an ounce of ROUGH shag " in God's county ........ In respect of the dance " The Twist " , this was originally created in Wombwell near Barnsley in 1960 , by Billy " Gogger " Arkwright . Billy's antics and contortions at trying to remove his suit trousers every Saturday night , following his usual quaffing of 16 pints of best bitter in his local working mens' club , always reduced his wife Concepta to fits of laughter , and she was often heard shouting at him " eee our Billy , tha's got thissen in a reyt twist " ( " you have got yourself in a right twist " ) . Concepta decided that Billy's gyrations deserved to be seen by a wider audience : she borrowed her Uncle Jack's cine camera and filmed Billy the next they came in " from t'club " , and posted it on " Tha Tube " . Chubby Checker saw the clip , and adapted Billy's movements and made them his own . Malc Burton Edited April 21, 2009 by Malc Burton
Guest stevejan Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 No Roberto : when it came to filling your meershaum , it was always " shag " , or more to the point " half an ounce of ROUGH shag " in God's county ........ In respect of the dance " The Twist " , this was originally created in Wombwell near Barnsley in 1960 , by Billy " Gogger " Arkwright . Billy's antics and contortions at trying to remove his suit trousers every Saturday night , following his usual quaffing of 16 pints of best bitter in his local working mens' club , always reduced his wife Concepta to fits of laughter , and she was often heard shouting at him " eee our Billy , tha's got thissen in a reyt twist " ( " you have got yourself in a right twist " ) . Concepta decided that Billy's gyrations deserved to be seen by a wider audience : she borrowed her Uncle Jack's cine camera and filmed Billy the next they came in " from t'club " , and posted it on " Tha Tube " . Chubby Checker saw the clip , and adapted Billy's movements and made them his own . Malc Burton At last malc the true story is out....these true facts will only add credence to South Yorks demands for independence in the world order
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