Soul Source Northern Soul Hall Of Fame Oct 2014

great work dave and everyone how voted great to see ady croasdell getting the respect he deservers i think the 100 club itself should be given and award as an iconic venue love the HOF  project is a great thing for the scene 

Looking down hard to argue with any of that ! top stuff

Influential DJ's ? without their finds the scene wouldn't be the same.

Influential DJ's ? without their finds the scene wouldn't be the same.

I'd have thought Ady was about as influential as you could get?  Both Richard Searling and Soul Sam were also nominated but didn't quite make the final list this time around but I'm sure they'll feature again as we continue to build the project.

Just so folks know.... we are in the process of building individual pages for each HOF Inductee that people can also contribute too. All the curren Inductes pages will all be opened together on 01 Nov just as we begin the next round of nominations. 

Regards,

Dave

Edit:  As you can probably see I've gimped the e and t keys on my laptop so apologies for the erratic spelling errors.

Love it and respect for putting together. Personally I can't wait until some egos start to feel excluded as the project develops. Think it should be similar to how politics should be structured, feeling you deserve to be included should be the best reason for being excluded. Look forward to seeing more.

I'm a cynical git at the best of times, but the award to Ady is fully justified. He is massively respected by everyone, including myself, on the scene for his contribution to the preservation of the music, and I have reservations about future awards being given to "D.J.'s". Dave and the team have done an excellent job and I couldn't agree more with the awardees chosen thus far

Excellent work!!

Des

Great work guys. I never met him but it brought a lump to my throat seeing the inclusion of Bob A.

I'm a cynical git at the best of times, but the award to Ady is fully justified. He is massively respected by everyone, including myself, on the scene for his contribution to the preservation of the music, and I have reservations about future awards being given to "D.J.'s". Dave and the team have done an excellent job and I couldn't agree more with the awardees chosen thus far

 

Excellent work!!

 

Des

I also respect the contribution from Ady, some great finds and releases etc but in terms of the most influential DJ.......

I struggle to see how Ady's contribution compares to the 100000+ who were members at the Casino and went to listen to Richard deliver a set; he introduced soul to so many people in first instance who then shared their experience with friends and helped develop the healthy scene that it is today. I would have thought other people benefited and built on the foundation laid down by Richard (including Ady). 

I appreciate Ady runs the 100 club and has been a stalwart of the scene , helping keep it going in the lean years but that doesn't make him the most influential DJ on the scene. I do not belittle Ady's contribution because it is significant; but question if it really is on the same influential scale as that from Richard.  

This of course is MHO.

I also respect the contribution from Ady, some great finds and releases etc but in terms of the most influential DJ.......

I struggle to see how Ady's contribution compares to the 100000+ who were members at the Casino and went to listen to Richard deliver a set; he introduced soul to so many people in first instance who then shared their experience with friends and helped develop the healthy scene that it is today. I would have thought other people benefited and built on the foundation laid down by Richard (including Ady). 

I appreciate Ady runs the 100 club and has been a stalwart of the scene , helping keep it going in the lean years but that doesn't make him the most influential DJ on the scene. I do not belittle Ady's contribution because it is significant; but question if it really is on the same influential scale as that from Richard.  

This of course is MHO.

Good Evening Mellorsoul,

Of course it's all subjective and about individual opinions for sure but it's worth noting that Ady received 5 times more nominations than any other non musical person in that category.  The Category he is to be inducted into is 'Outstanding Contribution' (not Most Influential DJ).  I think comparing the two as only like for like DJs, is like comparing apples and oranges. Both are indeed fruit but are distinctly different.  

For me, as a Board Member, I went with the majority of the nominations  which I felt was the responsible thing to do as he was so far clear of the remainder of the field and am happy that the end result reflected a good solid choice on behalf of the SS membership and in particular the people who engaged in the process.

It's good that these discussions take place though and especially good that members, like yourself, partake in them and contribute when they feel that they can/should. Hopefully, as the project builds people will feel comfortable having these types of discussions during the nominations process.

All Good.

Regards,

Dave

Good Evening Mellorsoul,

 

Of course it's all subjective and about individual opinions for sure but it's worth noting that Ady received 5 times more nominations than any other non musical person in that category.  The Category he is to be inducted into is 'Outstanding Contribution' (not Most Influential DJ).  I think comparing the two as only like for like DJs, is like comparing apples and oranges. Both are indeed fruit but are distinctly different.  

 

For me, as a Board Member, I went with the majority of the nominations  which I felt was the responsible thing to do as he was so far clear of the remainder of the field and am happy that the end result reflected a good solid choice on behalf of the SS membership and in particular the people who engaged in the process.

 

It's good that these discussions take place though and especially good that members, like yourself, partake in them and contribute when they feel that they can/should. Hopefully, as the project builds people will feel comfortable having these types of discussions during the nominations process.

 

All Good.

 

Regards,

 

Dave

Hi Dave

I agree that Ady has made an outstanding contribution to the scene and is worthy of recognition; Richard is perhaps the most influential DJ  and its comparing apples and pears because they are different aspects.

Although I think Richard has been the most influential DJ others may consider it to be Soul Sam or Ian Levine; its all subjective. It might get SS to recreate the Ritz scenario with contributors ranting for Richard,  Ian etc........ Lol

Perhaps a few DJ aspects in the hall of fame could be added (influential, consistently the best sets, best dancing set ever, most fast tunes in a set, most handbag tunes in an hour etc - there could be enough descriptions that everyone can win a prize). After all the DJ's promote the artists from behind the decks and without them the artists would probably never be recognised for their work.

KTF

Stu

Hello all,

Don't forget, we have time to put our 'favorites' in, but we must nominate them and votes must be garnered.  All I ask is that you participate in the betterment of this Hall of Fame (HOF). 

I will take all the criticisms you have and appreciate the support.  We will stumble and make mistakes along the way, but it will be out of love and oversight.  This time next year, we will be recognized as a noteworthy HOF.  I know I am emotional about this because I know how the artists/pre-production individuals will feel when inducted.   I have to tell myself to 'slow my roll' because everything cannot be done in one day.

I expect more of you to participate in the next round, except our apologies for any mistakes and hold our feet to the fire to make this better and better!

Love you all, :wub:

Lorraine

I also respect the contribution from Ady, some great finds and releases etc but in terms of the most influential DJ.......

I struggle to see how Ady's contribution compares to the 100000+ who were members at the Casino and went to listen to Richard deliver a set; he introduced soul to so many people in first instance who then shared their experience with friends and helped develop the healthy scene that it is today. I would have thought other people benefited and built on the foundation laid down by Richard (including Ady). 

I appreciate Ady runs the 100 club and has been a stalwart of the scene , helping keep it going in the lean years but that doesn't make him the most influential DJ on the scene. I do not belittle Ady's contribution because it is significant; but question if it really is on the same influential scale as that from Richard.  

This of course is MHO.

Ady deserves the recognition if for no other reason that no one has been more responsible for introducing northern soul to the world than Ady and Kent Records.

In an age when there was no internet, no youtube and no down loads those first two Kent LPs  -  For Dancers Only and For Dancers Also - and the many that followed have proven to be absolutely pivotal moments in northern soul history.  

Several generations of soul people from Sweden to Germany to Japan to Australia to the US and many other countries all around the world, let alone the UK, will readily tell you without hesitation that their introduction and lifelong love affair with rare soul music was established via those Kent LPs.

In fact it would be fair to say to say that without Ady's contribution, northern soul today would most likely still be nothing more than a curious local movement little known outside the UK.

Impossible to argue with any of this last statement totally correct in every respect, that's without mentioning the 100 club and Cleethorpes weekenders. How anyone can mention the northern soul scene and anything to do with it without giving Ady any credit is totally beyond me

On the basis that "The Northern Soul Scene" was born from say 1971 onwards - ie when the UK love of Rare Soul from USA really took off from the underground UK "Rhythm & Soul" scene  - and that the culture was an integral part of the 1970's, any Northern Soul hall of fame has surely got to recognise Ian Levine?. He was the most influential DJ/taste maker  in that decade and devoted his (sometimes churlish, often annoying, a lot of the time heroic, always sincere) energy to the "scene" and Black Music.. He discovered  more unknown American Soul Records  than anyone else  else ever (even more than Graham Warr - my hero) and introduced them  them to the UK,he co-produced records, co-wrote songs,  kept the purist integrity of the Blackpool Mecca against the often cash in mentality of Wigan Casino, promoted and explained the RareSoul ethos better and more eloquently than anyone else, led a campaign againt bootlegging, and had the taste and daring  to introduce 70's recordings into what was a 60's scene. He is a mate of mine but often a dickhead, but in all serousness a NorthernSoul Hall of Fame without  Levine seems odd. He is not a very fashionable person to recognise  these days - often due to errartic way behaviour  - but if you know your history....(.And Brian Phillips deserves acclaim and love too ).

I would say N Soul was born in 1964 I personally went to soul and mod venues aged 13 14 years of age and it was in full swing then and all through the mid and late 60's all the dance moves and feeling ect. Soul clubs everywhere.these years were impotant for what followed it 1964 when people like ourselves split from mainstream pop and rock and chose the alternative soul scene which we alll love for tht reason I would set the timeline at 1964 instead of 1971 sorry for those who weren,t there but believe me it did happen Big time.

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On the basis that "The Northern Soul Scene" was born from say 1971 onwards - ie when the UK love of Rare Soul from USA really took off from the underground UK "Rhythm & Soul" scene  - and that the culture was an integral part of the 1970's, any Northern Soul hall of fame has surely got to recognise Ian Levine?. He was the most influential DJ/taste maker  in that decade and devoted his (sometimes churlish, often annoying, a lot of the time heroic, always sincere) energy to the "scene" and Black Music.. He discovered  more unknown American Soul Records  than anyone else  else ever (even more than Graham Warr - my hero) and introduced them  them to the UK,he co-produced records, co-wrote songs,  kept the purist integrity of the Blackpool Mecca against the often cash in mentality of Wigan Casino, promoted and explained the RareSoul ethos better and more eloquently than anyone else, led a campaign againt bootlegging, and had the taste and daring  to introduce 70's recordings into what was a 60's scene. He is a mate of mine but often a dickhead, but in all serousness a NorthernSoul Hall of Fame without  Levine seems odd. He is not a very fashionable person to recognise  these days - often due to errartic way behaviour  - but if you know your history....(.And Brian Phillips deserves acclaim and love too ).

Hi Neil,

I'd have thought Ian would make the cut at some stage.  The list of 'finalists' is comprised of Soul Source members' nominations so if folks 'vote' for him he'll be under consideration.  People gotta make their nominations though.

Regards,

Dave

On the basis that "The Northern Soul Scene" was born from say 1971 onwards - ie when the UK love of Rare Soul from USA really took off from the underground UK "Rhythm & Soul" scene  - and that the culture was an integral part of the 1970's, any Northern Soul hall of fame has surely got to recognise Ian Levine?. He was the most influential DJ/taste maker  in that decade and devoted his (sometimes churlish, often annoying, a lot of the time heroic, always sincere) energy to the "scene" and Black Music.. He discovered  more unknown American Soul Records  than anyone else  else ever (even more than Graham Warr - my hero) and introduced them  them to the UK,he co-produced records, co-wrote songs,  kept the purist integrity of the Blackpool Mecca against the often cash in mentality of Wigan Casino, promoted and explained the RareSoul ethos better and more eloquently than anyone else, led a campaign againt bootlegging, and had the taste and daring  to introduce 70's recordings into what was a 60's scene. He is a mate of mine but often a dickhead, but in all serousness a NorthernSoul Hall of Fame without  Levine seems odd. He is not a very fashionable person to recognise  these days - often due to errartic way behaviour  - but if you know your history....(.And Brian Phillips deserves acclaim and love too ).

And whatever your personal view of Ian and let`s face it, there is a wide spectrum of feelings, the above statement by Neil should certainly be considered!

Without Mr Levine we would not have the vibrant and diverse scene we know and love.

And whatever your personal view of Ian and let`s face it, there is a wide spectrum of feelings, the above statement by Neil should certainly be considered!

Without Mr Levine we would not have the vibrant and diverse scene we know and love.

All you have to do is rally the support for Ian's inclusion in the next round of votes and put in the votes, after all, as Vic Reeves used to say " We really want to see those fingers".

Have I missed something with the first inductees as we have 2 MALE vocalists but no FEMALE ones?

can anyone explain as I haven't been able to find reasons, explanations or indeed anything in the charter?

TIA

Dave

Have I missed something with the first inductees as we have 2 MALE vocalists but no FEMALE ones?

 

can anyone explain as I haven't been able to find reasons, explanations or indeed anything in the charter?

 

TIA

 

Dave

All the first inductees aren't up yet, there's a couple more being added at a time so that the weight of reading doesn't bog down those that want to read and inwardly digest, or even comment.  So, be patient, they'll be there soon.

TattooDave

Have I missed something with the first inductees as we have 2 MALE vocalists but no FEMALE ones?

 

can anyone explain as I haven't been able to find reasons, explanations or indeed anything in the charter?

 

TIA

 

Dave

Yep,

Hopefully, The Andantes will be up shortly.  With so many artists on the inaugural round we felt I best to drip the pages out  as it

a. Gives people time to read and enjoy them properly and none get 'lost in the shuffle'.

b. It allows more time to create the pages and as such we can hopefully maintain the quality of each one. 

We're getting there I think... 

Regards,

Dave

I really don't understand this thread, what is the purpose of it ?.  With the greatest respect.

Thanks for explanation on missing inductees, information is king,

I must say great pages on each inductee section.

Dave

I really don't understand this thread, what is the purpose of it ?.  With the greatest respect.

Hi John,

It was instigated to let people know the results of the first round of Inductees. If it's now defunct? Worth deleting?   

Regards,

Dave

To add a little further about Ady...he constantly discovers unreleased tracks. He always brings lost labels to the forefront...who would have thought of LP's devoted to the works of Lee Silver, the Ben-Lee team and Bill Haney, to name a few?

He's always worked hard to keep the music out there and accessible...I think that's one hell of an accomplishment!

Best,

Mark