4000+ Northern Soul Record Collection Auction News Item

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What a strange way to sell them ! There doesn't seem to be a list of the contents of the boxes, or even how many records each box contains, just saying 4000 45's doesn't really help. With a 25.5% buyers premium also to take into account how would you know what to bid?  I suppose if it's close enough distance wise then it'd be worth a journey to go look, but that's gonna cut down the potential buyers, or will it be just like a gathering of the major and minor dealers?
I remember previous collections auctioned via this route and they raised a tiny percentage of what I would have expected. If I knew whose collection this is I'd have definitely advised them to sell them via a different route. Bonkers to me !

If this is who I think it is then there will be some great records in there .  I've been buying from him for years after getting a tip from a fellow collector . 

The clues are in the newspaper article and there was a thread on here about him earlier in the year .

If I had some spare cash I'd be up for a couple of boxes blind 

 I contacted the auctioneers ,they sent me the list of records ,but I cant open on my tablet,isent it to my work and  its over 200 pages   wanted to print it off but to much to risk.   some top stuff on it

It is Johns

there are 120 in each box

95% are rubbish early 60s he could never sell or major label big sellers that are neither rnb or soul

the odd pop record

any of note are bootlegs 

only two of the boxes are worth any bid and they contain a small quantity of reissues and stick on bootlegs

57 minutes ago, soulsickdog said:

 I contacted the auctioneers ,they sent me the list of records ,but I cant open on my tablet,isent it to my work and  its over 200 pages   wanted to print it off but to much to risk.   some top stuff on it

Are you willing to share if I send my email address or are you restricted for some reason?

Many modern reissues 

21 hours ago, purist said:

What a strange way to sell them ! There doesn't seem to be a list of the contents of the boxes, or even how many records each box contains, just saying 4000 45's doesn't really help. With a 25.5% buyers premium also to take into account how would you know what to bid?  I suppose if it's close enough distance wise then it'd be worth a journey to go look, but that's gonna cut down the potential buyers, or will it be just like a gathering of the major and minor dealers?
I remember previous collections auctioned via this route and they raised a tiny percentage of what I would have expected. If I knew whose collection this is I'd have definitely advised them to sell them via a different route. Bonkers to me !

I heard about this on Thursday and did some digging.

The post above just about sums up my thoughts.

What a load of bollocks

records are listed and available ftom auctioneers

nothing unusual about splitting lots in an auction

Estate not left to anybody

Any question to them about origin gets an honest answer

1 hour ago, headsy said:

What a load of bollocks

records are listed and available ftom auctioneers

nothing unusual about splitting lots in an auction

Estate not left to anybody

Any question to them about origin gets an honest answer

 

I clicked on more details, and it didn't even show quantity in each box, let alone a list of titles. Can you put up a link to the titles list please

Majority is blues ,doo wop, 60s, few motown bit of reggae, Northern mainly reissues or boots all mixed up in the lots & yes it is the remnants  from Johns collection spoke to a few who have been through these when John was alive & not a great deal of any to note  sale starts at 11.00am 25% buyer commission on top , I printed them off for our soul night last night for collectors to have a look at no big records on original of what we could see

No link.

list was available from auctioneers on excel sheet

Anyone from the North East go to this? It's only down the road from me in North Shields and assumed it was John's stuff but forgot about it til too late. 

seen list lots and lots of boots and crap Headsy is spot on in description 

£1700 ( +20+%) highest bid on one lot - 200 or so 45's 

3 hours ago, Mike Lofthouse said:

£1700 ( +20+%) highest bid on one lot - 200 or so 45's 

 

This lot contained Eddie Parker I'm Gone & Rose Baptiste boots dealers & internet driving prices up every record lot started at £100 auction started at 11 records never came on till 4 cheapest batch went for £160 , 2 lots for around £500

5 hours ago, HARRY 1 said:

seen list lots and lots of boots and crap Headsy is spot on in description 

Just wasted a full day set out at 9 back at 7.30 but the craics been good few of the lads from Newcastle there 

I thought i had seen it it all until today that is. We all think ebay is bad.......... well it was a day of my life wasted.

Most of the 45 lots hit well over £200 each most were in fact between £300-£500. Lot 339 hit £1700 + 22.5% buyer commission £2082.50! The Tan Geers, Ruby Andrews and Sam Fletcher Bootlegs. UNBELIVEABLE. What have I missed in this lot? I am sure that most of this lot were reissues.

Remember most of these lots were reissues and possibly old soul pack records that could never be sold as a lot of the titles were familiar.

Well done Featonby's Auction Room, you hit the Jackpot.

I was there all day and did bid on a lot of them but then it just went daft with one person buying most of what was for sale. I should have got the hint when I noticed the said person unfolding cardboard boxes for 45's before the records had been sold haha.

Here are the listings of lot 339:

20 minutes ago, kev cane said:

Boo

Brothers of soul

I'm the one that love forgot  Don't think this exists Daz

Hi Kev,

I have never seen so many bootleg / reissues. Some i've never seen before and some looked like a DIY effort.  An unusual lot indeed.

10 hours ago, Daz said:

I thought i had seen it it all until today that is. We all think ebay is bad.......... well it was a day of my life wasted.

 

I registered , got the spreadsheet sent and watched it unfold on-line.  Quickly realized that each lot was taking a minute so it was going to be nearly 5 o'clock before it started. They even paused the auction at that point!  must of frustrated a few up there.  So glad I didn't travel up.  

I assume the Ray Agee, Otis Lee, Mikki Farrow and Sam Fletcher were all boots, otherwise someone got a bargain!!

more boots than Imelda Marcos walk in wardrobe 

will probably get stuck on ebay as the real deal  !!!

13 hours ago, kev cane said:

Boo

Brothers of soul

I'm the one that love forgot  Don't think this exists Daz

Who was that buying virtually everything at the back of the room i didn't recognise him

Only bid on couple of lots as you say wasted day but we had a laugh in the pub opposite with Dicka & Steve telling of times they tried to buy records off John & come away with nowt , I know how they felt after today , John was nearly present at the auction as Dicka has his ashes in the boot of his car

6 hours ago, johnty said:

Who was that buying virtually everything at the back of the room i didn't recognise him

Only bid on couple of lots as you say wasted day but we had a laugh in the pub opposite with Dicka & Steve telling of times they tried to buy records off John & come away with nowt , I know how they felt after today , John was nearly present at the auction as Dicka has his ashes in the boot of his car

 

Don't know mate, wasn't there

Kev

The fella buying them was a familiar face to me. But I cannot recall where from? A record dealer imo.

One thing is for sure he will struggle to make any profit on all of what was purchased.

That was a five mile round trip saved! 

Told today total was around 7.8k for the sale

3 hours ago, headsy said:

Told today total was around 7.8k for the sale

 

 

 

 

Less than 2 pounds a record then

Looking at the crazy rices boots and re-issues are fetching on ebay and the rest I recon at £2.00 a record there's money to be made by someone. Just look at Comedy Sale Of The Day in look at your box.

We're all laughing at whoever paid that for a pile of crap but i think the dodgy dealers out there will have a field.

On 05/12/2016 at 22:07, Daz said:

I thought i had seen it it all until today that is. We all think ebay is bad.......... well it was a day of my life wasted.

Most of the 45 lots hit well over £200 each most were in fact between £300-£500. Lot 339 hit £1700 + 22.5% buyer commission £2082.50! The Tan Geers, Ruby Andrews and Sam Fletcher Bootlegs. UNBELIVEABLE. What have I missed in this lot? I am sure that most of this lot were reissues.

Remember most of these lots were reissues and possibly old soul pack records that could never be sold as a lot of the titles were familiar.

Well done Featonby's Auction Room, you hit the Jackpot.

I was there all day and did bid on a lot of them but then it just went daft with one person buying most of what was for sale. I should have got the hint when I noticed the said person unfolding cardboard boxes for 45's before the records had been sold haha.

Here are the listings of lot 339:

BOX KK lot no : 339
Eric	Frank Avalon	Venus
Atlantic	The Buffalo Springfield	Rock 'n' Roll woman
Flip	Richard Berry	Louie Louie
Old Gold	Gary Puckett & The Union Gap	Young Girl
American Pie	Little Jr Parker	Sweet home Chicago
Collectables	Count Five	Psychotic Reaction
Collectables	The Chordettes	Mr Sandman
Atlantic	The Chordettes	Loollipop
Stateside	The Chiffons	A Love So Fine
Specialty	Little Richard	Send me some lovin'
Chess	Luther Dixon	Feeling of Love
G.I	The Starfires	I Never Loved Her
MCA Records	Michael McDonald	Sweet Freedom
Metromedia	The Winstons	Color Him Father
HI	Al Green	Right now, Right Now
HI	Al Green	Drivin' Wheel
Private I	The Staple Singers	Slippery People
Event	The Fatback Band	gotta learn how to dance
Streetwave	Arnie's Love	im out of your life
Giant	Color Me Badd	I wanna sex you up
SoulCity	Walter & The Admirations	Life of Tears
Achievement	Rocq-e Harrell	my heart keeps beating faster
Joker	The Showmen	Our love will grow
Sound impression	Doni Burdick	I have faith in you
Uptite	The Superlatives	I still love you
Champion	Gloria Jones	My bad boy's comin' home
Virtual	Magnetics	I have a girl
Gogate	Little John	Just wait and see
Mar-V-Lus	Alvin Cash and the registers	Sweatin' (do you want to)
Lamon	Ellusions	You wouldn't understand
Stata	The Deadbeats	No second chance
Sterling	Yvonne Daniels	Don’t want to get away from your love
Faro	Enchantments	I'm in love with your daughter (part 1)
Flip	Richard Berry	Have love will travel
Coxsone	Jackie Opel	Push Wood
Swingin'	Big Jay McNeely and Band	Psycho Serenade
Congress	The Bracelets	Waddle Waddle
Okeh	Tan Geers	Let my heart and soul be free
Soul 7	Audrey Freeman	Three rooms
Musicor	The Platters	Not my girl
Tamla	Jnr Walker	Tune up
Jet Stream	Barbara Lynn	(Until then) I'll suffer
Checker	Little Luther	Eenie meenie minie moe
3246	Matt Lucas	Shake it
Robin	Champion Jack Dupree	Drunk again
Cobra	Otis Rush and his band	Double trouble
Detroit stars	Pat Lewis	Geni
Cadet	George Kirby	Good night Irene
Tollie	Sam Fletcher	I'd think it over
R&B Gold	Larose Phillips	Wanted
Quaint	Otis Lee	Hard row to hoe
Soultown	Ray Agee	I'm losing again
Dra	Jessie May	It might as well be spring
Peacock	Willie Mae 'Big mama Thornton'	Hound dog
Peacock	Willie Mae 'Big mama Thornton'	I smell a rat
Bay tone	Willie Mae 'Big mama Thornton'	You did me wrong
Irma	Big mama Thornton and the High tones	Big mama's coming home
Arctic	Winfield Parker	Fallin' star
Arctic	The Ambassadors	I only have eyes for you
Arctic	Kenny Gamble	It takes two
Arctic	The combo kings	The Rock
Arctic	The Tiffanys	Lover Boy
Arctic	Barbara Mason	Catch him, love
Pied Piper	Lorraine Chandler	I can't hold on
Pied Piper	Mikki Farrow	Set my heart at ease
Pied Piper	September Jones	Voo Doo Madamoiselle
Pied Piper	Tony Hester	Just can't leave
Pied Piper	Willie Kendrick	She'll be leaving you
Pied Piper	Nancy Wilcox	Gamblers Blues
Pied Piper	Rose Batiste	This heart is lonely
Pied Piper	The Cavaliers	Ooh it hurts me
Pied Piper	Nancy Wilcox	He'll be leaving you
Waxpoetics	The moments	Baby I want you
Zodiac	Ruby Andrews	Just loving you
Fame	Dan Penn	Keep on talking
Fame	George Jackson	Victim of a foolish heart
Flo-Jo	The Tranells	Blessed with a love
Detroit 1	Bettye Lavette	Right outta time
Mark4	Noel Mckoy	Determind man
Genuine	Mr Soul	What happened to yesterday
Thomas	Saxie Russell	Psychedelic soul - part 1
All Brothers	The Emanon's orchestra	Bird walking
Philips	The Chesterfields	You walked away
Soul Galore	Benny Curtis and the Dirty Hearts	Dirty hearts
Northern	Johnnie Mae Mathews	I have no choice
Revilot	Rosie Battiste	I miss my baby
Awake	Eddie Parker	I'm gone
All Brothers	The Emanon's	One heart
Connoisseur	Marty Richards	What makes one fall in love
Connoisseur	Freddy Jaye	Thinking of you
Sherry Hill	Betty Everette	No place to hide
Eric	Bernie Williams	Ever again
Soul	Betty Brooks	Funky funky
Dynamite soul	Denis Bryant	Soul man
Jazzman	Mark Murphy	Why don't you do right
Stardust	Johnny Maestro	I'm stepping out of the picture
Stardust	Barbara Lewis	I Remember the feeling
Stardust	Ernestine Anderson	Keep an eye on love
Stardust	Poets	Wrapped around your finger
Stardust	Hattie Littles	Here you come
Soul Tribe	Eddie Billups	Shake off that dream
Soul Tribe	Rhonda McDaniel	Why am I crying
Soul Tribe	King Moses	I've got this feeling
Soul Tribe	The sweet inspirations	Sweet Love
Blackjack	Informers	Lady of the night
Boo	Brothers of soul	I'm the one that love forgot
Sidra	Pearl Jones	A dream
Big Mack	The Manhattens	The feeling is mutual
Parlophone	Ral Donner	You don't know what you've got
Tamla motown	R.Dean Taylor	Gotta see Jane
MCA Records	The Chi-Lites	Troubles A' coming
MCA Records	The Chi-Lites	(For God's sake) Give more power to the people
CBS	The Dave Brubeck Quartet	This can't be love
Chess	Marlena Shaw	Mercy Mercy Mercy
Atlantic	Baby Washington	Breakfast in bed
Atlantic	King Floyd	Got to have your lovin'
Mercury Records	Jimmy Castor	Bang Bang
BOX LL lot no: 339
CBS	Billy Joe Royal	Steal Away
Ember Records	"Little" Esther Phillips	Am I that easy to forget
Fontana	Little Richard	I don't know what you've got ( but it's got me ) part1
Bell Records	The Delfonics	Funny Feeling
MCA Records	Leon Haywood	Tennesee Waltx
Stateside	The Murmaids	Popsicles and Icicles
Island	Nirvana	Rainbow Chaser
MGM	The Stereos	The Big Knock
Buddah Records	Curtis Mayfield	Freddies Dead
Liberty	Al Wilson	Shake me, Wake me
Direction	Sly & The Family Stone	Stand!
Direction	Sly & The Family Stone	Hot Fun in the Summertime
Direction	Sly & The Family Stone	M'Lady
Direction	Sly & The Family Stone	Hot Fun in the Summertime
Direction	Sly & The Family Stone	Thank you
Direction	Sly & The Family Stone	I Ain't going for that
Direction	Sly & The Family Stone	Everyday People
Direction	The Chambers Brothers	time has come today
Mercury Records	Joe Simon	You're the one for me
London	The Teddy Bears	To know him is to love him
Roulette	Tommy James & The Shondells	Do Something to me
Columbia	Helen Shapiro	You Don't Know
PYE Records	Mel Carter	When a boy falls in love
Pye International	Chubby Checker	Twist it up
Tamla Motown	Magic Disco Machine	Control Tower
Tamla Motown	Supremes	Bad Weather
Tamla Motown	Supremes	Your wonderful sweet love
Tamla Motown	Stevie Wonder	Don't know why I love you
Tamla Motown	The Supremes	up the ladder to the roof
Tamla Motown	Marvin Gaye	Too busy thinkinbg about my baby
Tamla motown	Marvin Gaye	I want you
Tamla motown	Marvin Gaye	After the dance
Tamla motown	The Temptations	Lay of the land
Tamla motown	The Temptations	Just my imagination
Tamla motown	R.Dean Taylor	Gotta see Jane
Tamla motown	Eddie Kendricks	Keep on truckin' part 1
Tamla motown	Jimmy Ruffin	Let's say goodbye tomorrow
Tamla motown	Smokey Robinson and the Miracles	I second that emotion
Tamla motown	Temptations	I need you
Tamla motown	The Miracles	Love machine (part 1)
Tamla motown	Eddie Kendricks	Boogie Down
Tamla motown	Rose Banks	Darling Baby
Atlantic	Booker T. & The MG's	Red Beans and rice
Stax	Mable John	It's catchin
Ace Records	Bobby Marchan	Don't take you love away from me
Toddlin' Town records	Thomas East & Fabulous Playboys	I get a groove
Motown	The Supremes	up the ladder to the roof
Marc Records	The Specials	I'm leaving it up to you
KWS		Please don't go
CBS records	Love unlimited	If you want me, say it
Deram	Katie Brigs	Overland
Oasis	Roberta Kelly	Trouble-maker
Ric-tic records	J J Barnes	Day Tripper
Kon-Ti	Toni Washington	Dear Diary
Jay Pee Records	The Eight Minutes	Let's sign a peace treaty
Jay Pee Records	The Eight Minutes	Will you still be mine
RCA	Vernon Bullock	Two kinds of people (I am)
Valley Vue Records	Craig T Cooper	Love Dues
ABC Records	Four Tops	Catfish
Warner/Elektra/Atlantic	Jennifer Holliday	Hard times for lovers
Warner/Elektra/Atlantic	Jennifer Holliday	No Frills love
Mercury Records	The Chi-Lites	Happy being lonely
Jotee Records	The Blendelles	La la the magic song
Philadelphia International Records	The O'Jays	Family Reunion
Philly Groove Records	The Delfonics	Hey Baby
Arista	Aretha Franklin & George Benson	Love all the hurt away
Warner Bros Records	Graham Central Station	Ghetto
Columbia	Pockets	Pasado
Dash	Foxy	Get off
Brunswick	The Chi-lites	Here i am
Philly Groove Records	First choice	First Choice
Metromedia	The Winstons	Birds of a feather
Stax	Booker T. & The MG's	Soul limbo
Casablanca	Stephanie Mills	Last night
Hilltak records	Dalton & Dubarri	Til the day i started loving you
Atlantic	Chic	My forbidden lover
RCA	Eddy Rosemond	Wake up and move Funk it
Westbound	Detroit Emeralds	I bet you get the one
Eastbound records	Catfish Hodge	Birmingham
Stax	John lee Hooker	Tupelo pt.1
20th Century records	silver Hawk	All I can do
Chimneyville	King Floyd	Groove me
United Artists Records	Mark Radice	Monkey see monkey do
Buddah Records	Gladys Knight & The Pips	Make yours a happy home
Stax	Rufus Thomas	The world is round
Volt	The emotions	What do the lonely do at christmas
Stax	The newcomers	Humpty Dumpty
Stax	Rufus Thomas	I'll be your santa bay
Cottilion	C & The Shells	good morning starshine
Stax	The Staple Singers	The Ghetto
Stax	The Staple Singers	The Challenge
Stax	Booker T. & The MG's	Jamaica this morning
Sceptre	The Chequers	Undecide love
Columbia	Bob James	Theme from Taxi
United Artist Records	Mandrill	Solid
Demand	Brown Sugar	Bye Bye Baby
Buddah records	Isley Brothers	Free Tom
Alston	Betty Wright	Thank you for the many things you've done
Solar	The Whispers	It's a love thing
Scorpio	David	I'd be a M illionaire
Columbia	Gladys Knight & The Pips	Ain't no greater love
Buddah Records	The Honey Cone	Hot Wax
Philly Groove Records	The Delfonics	I gave to you
P  M Records	Malcolm Simmons	Lie to me
Buddah Records	Dorothy Morrison	Border Song
Philly Groove Records	The Delfonics	Alfie
Cynthia	Lady Margo	Nothing Better
Aristo records	Chandelier	Give me the love i need
Motown	Willie Hutch	I feel that we can make it
Philly Groove Records	The Delfonics	Didn't I
Philly Groove Records	Delfonics	I'm a man
Philly Groove Records	The Delfonics	Alfie
Lipstick records	Frankie G	Be my baby
De-lite records	Kool & The Gang	Everybodys dancin'
Music Merchant	Brotherley love	Bingo
Tod-Ant	George Kerr	All the way
Warner Bros Records	Claudia Lennear	Two Trains
Big Tree	Jimmy Mack	Give it away
At Globe records	The Evaros	Dedicated to the one i love
Jolee records	The Blendelles	La la the magic song
Beam Junction	Grace Jones	Sorry
ITC	Keanya Collins	You don't own me
De-lite records	Crown Heights Affair	Dancin'
Abbot records	The state dept	Wild Honey part 1
Fontana	The Dave Brubeck Quartet	Take five
Boola-Boola Records	The Wind Jammers	Poor sad sam
Junior	The Sensations	You make a fool of me
Whit	Bobby Powell	The Bells of St. Marys
Life	Wind	Make Believe

Ellusions, Ruby Andrews, Otus Lee and Tranells in here also. Would need to have seen the records to know how many boots there were. Also plenty of records never actually booted in Lot 339. So many boots in the box, it's hard to accept there may have been good original vinyl also.

Some of the magazines/fanzines looked interesting. Anyone know where they went?